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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperstorm
    Since when is Bill anchored to a Canadian? Simon Walters didn't seem very Canadian considering he was wearing a U.S. Army uniform.
    *Shrug*

    You know, if you'd read what I said cloesely, you'd note that the point I'm driving at is that, whoever Bill is anchored to, it doesn't matter, because HE is a horse-faced Space Alien.

    Hardly Canadian.

    He could be anchored to the Hudson BAby for all I care, he's still going to be Beta Ray Bill.
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    Actually now that I think about it I kinda like this move.

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    Whether or not Beta Ray Bill is a Canadian citizen, I have no problem with his link to Canada. Afterall, space alien though he may be, Bill embodies the power of a Norse god. And Canada is the home to every authentic viking artifact found in the New World.

    Norse, alien, new world/Vinland/Canda... yeah. Seems to fit.

    Not that I like BRB. In fact, while his new pics look cool, I always hated him and the idea of how he got his powers. LAME.

    Nevertheless, in OF I'm willing to give him a chance, for his potential for weaving in a mystical "Vinland" story arc if nothing else.

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    One thing I'm wondering about BRB, is there a distinct "Simon Walters" personality, or memories in there, or is he basically just wearing the man's corpse as a suit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus
    One thing I'm wondering about BRB, is there a distinct "Simon Walters" personality, or memories in there, or is he basically just wearing the man's corpse as a suit?
    Good question.

    Jake Olsen, anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus
    One thing I'm wondering about BRB, is there a distinct "Simon Walters" personality, or memories in there, or is he basically just wearing the man's corpse as a suit?
    He has some of the memories but not the personality.

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    In next week's Civil War Spotlight there's an interview with Oeming where he states (and I'm paraphrasing majorly here) that Talisman is the team leader, although not if US Agent can help it.

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    Anyone else think it was Talisman that saved Bill during Stormbreaker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil
    In next week's Civil War Spotlight there's an interview with Oeming where he states (and I'm paraphrasing majorly here) that Talisman is the team leader, although not if US Agent can help it.
    Well, that sounds OK, Talisman leading and butting heads with US Agent to keep him in line...
    Keep your stick on the ice.

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    it will be liek a reverse of rolls for Talisman.. reminds me of her and Heather butting heads

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    Well, let me just first comment on the lead topic here - that being, Mike the Mailman is in the Guardian suit.

    In my viewpoint, this sucks.

    I still plan on buying this series...but if i do not like the direction it is taking, i will no longer be ordering more than one copy of each issue, as previously planned.I respect Mike Oeming, due to the interviews with him that I have read. But he is REALLY going to have to "wow" me to win me over now. God bless him, I hope he does "wow" me.

    Let's be honest. This is NOT an Alpha Flight sequel. It is NOT an Alpha Flight book. Not at all. It is Omega Flight. I wish they had called it "Team Omega", I am somewhat miffed that they even waylaid the "Flight" part of the name a tiny bit.

    Somebody in the suit who is not a Hudson? Not a Canadian? Not a member, or former-member, of Alpha Flight? Again, IMHO, not a good move.

    I understand, somewhat, why this was done. But I still do not like it, and do not respect it. Not at all.

    Respect. There is that word again. If this series does not find a way, in it's paltry number of issues, to do some real homage to AF, to find a way to make this Alpha-lover's heart soar again, then i sincerely hope it dies a nasty and silent death...and then somebody, somewhere down the line, says "Hey, why don't we bring back Alpha Flight!" Respect. All i want is some real respect and decency shown to my favourite heroes. So far, nothing. I need for you to "Wow" me, Mr Oeming, if you can...

    Since this is not Alpha Flight...I sure do hope that Sasquatch does not join them. I do not mind if he is in the mini-series, but I hope at the end that he goes his own way. This is not his team. This is not AF. Sasquatch has been a member of AF since the beginning, a member through all three incarnations/volumes. Talisman...OF can have her. She was only a part-time, sometimes member of AF in volume 1, and she was not even present in the other two series. She is not really an AF member, so OF can have her. Doesn't matter to me. But they cannot have my Sasquatch to keep! Never!

    Mike the Mailman in the suit...only an American with no understanding of what AF means/meant to this country would dare to do something that assinine.
    (My apologies to all Americans who love AF for that
    comment...)
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    [quote="Flightpath07"]Well, let me just first comment on the lead topic here - that being, Mike the Mailman is in the Guardian suit.

    In my viewpoint, this sucks.[quote]

    I'm an American and I agree with you totally on this, FP. It sucks beyond sucking to have an American in the Weapon Alpha/Vindicator/Guardian mapleleaf costume, representing your country. I would feel exactly the same way if it were Captain America and they put Mac in his suit....It just isn't right, on any level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    I still plan on buying this series...but if i do not like the direction it is taking, i will no longer be ordering more than one copy of each issue, as previously planned.I respect Mike Oeming, due to the interviews with him that I have read. But he is REALLY going to have to "wow" me to win me over now. God bless him, I hope he does "wow" me.
    I feel the same here, as well...This series had better be good.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    Let's be honest. This is NOT an Alpha Flight sequel. It is NOT an Alpha Flight book. Not at all. It is Omega Flight. I wish they had called it "Team Omega", I am somewhat miffed that they even waylaid the "Flight" part of the name a tiny bit.

    I have to disagree here. As far as I'm concerned...If this is indeed, Alpha Flight's last chance (as Oeming had said), then it IS Alpha Flight Volume 4. If it's meant to be a seperate entity, then why that warning and/or threat? The prospect of it being so, certainly does not thrill me in the least. I love Alpha Flight and would hate that they never get a fair chance again because of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    Somebody in the suit who is not a Hudson? Not a Canadian? Not a member, or former-member, of Alpha Flight? Again, IMHO, not a good move.

    I understand, somewhat, why this was done. But I still do not like it, and do not respect it. Not at all.

    Respect. There is that word again. If this series does not find a way, in it's paltry number of issues, to do some real homage to AF, to find a way to make this Alpha-lover's heart soar again, then i sincerely hope it dies a nasty and silent death...and then somebody, somewhere down the line, says "Hey, why don't we bring back Alpha Flight!" Respect. All i want is some real respect and decency shown to my favourite heroes. So far, nothing. I need for you to "Wow" me, Mr Oeming, if you can...
    Again...I feel the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    Since this is not Alpha Flight...I sure do hope that Sasquatch does not join them. I do not mind if he is in the mini-series, but I hope at the end that he goes his own way. This is not his team. This is not AF. Sasquatch has been a member of AF since the beginning, a member through all three incarnations/volumes. Talisman...OF can have her. She was only a part-time, sometimes member of AF in volume 1, and she was not even present in the other two series. She is not really an AF member, so OF can have her. Doesn't matter to me. But they cannot have my Sasquatch to keep! Never!
    Elizabeth...Not really an AF member, so OF can have her??!!! How dare you say such a thing...Why you little...I oughta...AAARRGH! I adore Talisman...If OF can't have Sasquatch, they can't have her either!

    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    Mike the Mailman in the suit...only an American with no understanding of what AF means/meant to this country would dare to do something that assinine.
    (My apologies to all Americans who love AF for that
    comment...)

    No need to apologize...I feel the same (except I'm just not a Canadian).

    I know I've been perceived as being very negative about Omega Flight, but why shouldn't I be? Some of my most favorite Marvel characters have been brain-washed, abused, made to look like fools and killed off. Then Marvel trots out a couple of the survivors and sticks them with a bunch of decidedly non-Alphan characters and calls it a "Flight" team. The killer of Alpha Flight from the US, wearing Guardian's costume is really pushing things too far. How Walter could even be able to stomach this person wearing his dead friend's uniform or how he could even come up with this idea is well beyond my understanding.

    Yes, I'm angry and I may be that way for a while. I'm also trying very hard to be positive about this project, yet I keep fearing impending disaster. I'm going to keep trying to be optimistic about OF and I will also give the series a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guardian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Primate
    what if he took Canadian citizenship...that would be cool.
    How about this, if the States lets a Canadian take over as Captain America now that Rogers is dead, we'll be okay with Mike as Guardian/Weapon Alpha/whatever he's going to be called.
    Uh....no. As far as I'm concerned, nobody should wear the Captain America suit anymore, other than Steve Rogers. American or not. Though other characters have nobley taken the Mantle of Captain America. The only real Cap is Steve. He made the suit. He died wearing the suit, protecting his people. R.I.P. Steve.
    That was kinda the point to my joke. No fan would want anyone, let alone a non-American, wearing the CA outfit other than Steve Rogers. Same as how I feel about Mike the postman being given the Guardian suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmurfInABlender
    except for they have no right to have a man on the inside in CANADA.. It isn't under Stark's Jurisdiction
    Stark is now head of SHIELD, which is International
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guardian
    And my worst fear has come to light. The mailman will be wearing the Guardian suit to learn to control his powers and to "honor" everyone that he killed, by being a hero for Canada. I'm so pissed...............
    Well that puts to bed the comment of seeing only one Canadian in the prom art, huh?

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