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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Messor View Post
    Well, weren't Chuck Austen, Greg Land, and Bendis also put in charge of X-Men titles?
    Ugh, Chuck Austen.
    I thought his Draco Arc was going to be the death of my love of comics.
    And *shivers* that art was nightmarish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tawmis View Post
    If by good, you mean, you needed toilet paper, sure.
    So just to check, you have read all 15 issues that I'm referring to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Messor View Post
    Well, weren't Chuck Austen, Greg Land, and Bendis also put in charge of X-Men titles?
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    Ugh, Chuck Austen.
    I thought his Draco Arc was going to be the death of my love of comics.
    Austen made Northstar an X-Man. I'll always respect him for that.

    Weren't they called 'Miracles'?
    (Which in no way contradicts your theory, just alters the phrasing a little.)
    Yup. The whole 'Inhuman' thing stems from anti-Marvel paranoia and hatred that's been spread round the internet with no evidence. (Not aimed at Tawmis; I've read maaaaaaaaaaaaany other people saying it)

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    Le Messor, I'm pretty sure that Superior Spider-Man was in the regular Marvel U. I didn't read it, but I am fairly confident that Doc Oc took over Parker's body and life when Parker died.
    Parker didn't die.
    Doc Ock's switched their personalities and then his body died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Austen made Northstar an X-Man. I'll always respect him for that.
    Could you like him for that instead?

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    Yup. The whole 'Inhuman' thing stems from anti-Marvel paranoia and hatred that's been spread round the internet with no evidence. (Not aimed at Tawmis; I've read maaaaaaaaaaaaany other people saying it)
    Wait... are you trying to say they're making comics for a world that hates and fears them?


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    Parker didn't die.
    Doc Ock's switched their personalities and then his body died.
    Part of my confusion.

    (FP - 'my bad' can mean 'my mistake', I think. I certainly meant it that way. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Parker didn't die.
    Doc Ock's switched their personalities and then his body died.
    Phil, no offense, but...I fail to see how that differs from dying. The body that Peter Parker was trapped in, died, leaving him with no body for his consciousness to live on in. Although his original body survived, he was not in possession of it. I'd call that 'being dead'.
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    His body was alive and his consciousness was alive.
    No part of him was ever dead; he just wasn't in control of his own body.

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    If you are in somebody else's body, and that body dies with you in it, and you cannot go back into your own body...I call that being dead.
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    If you read ASM #698-700 and Superior Spider-Man it's made clear he never died.
    The clues were there all along; Slott had it planned from the start.

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    Replace the word "cancel", though, with "pause", and re-read your statements again. Think about it, how many times have a character or team or series been "paused", or put on hold, or killed off to be brought back at a later time? Even Wolverine is going to die at last, and presumably be gone for at least a year or so, in order to revive the character. And Peter Parker was killed off, as well. Suddenly, not so ridiculous?
    No, it's still pretty ridiculous. Killing off a single character isn't the same as shelving an entire corner of the universe for no reason other than pettiness. Even when they "killed" Peter Parker (which, as mentioned, they didn't really), it didn't mean they suddenly weren't publishing Spider-Man books.

    Whatever they do with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in order to make them (and possibly some variation on mutants in general) viable for the MCU isn't going to suddenly rearrange the entire mutant corner of the comic world, especially since the movie isn't even finished being made yet.

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    Okay, let's add to the list of "Things Marvel Would never Do Because It Sounds Stupid" -

    http://www.newsarama.com/21572-thor-...his-place.html

    Um, how about replacing Thor with a brand-new Thor? Also, I see in this article that we are also getting a brand-new Captain America this fall as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Okay, let's add to the list of "Things Marvel Would never Do Because It Sounds Stupid" -

    http://www.newsarama.com/21572-thor-...his-place.html

    Um, how about replacing Thor with a brand-new Thor? Also, I see in this article that we are also getting a brand-new Captain America this fall as well.

    Yup, there is No Way that Marvel will stop putting out X-Men books. LOL. Think Again, true believers!
    Indeed. New Captain America is coming. Thor will be a brand new female character. (Even though there is already an existing Thor Girl).

    And with the popularity of both of these characters (Cap and Thor) with their movies - and they're making these bold moves... if one thinks they won't tamper with the X-Men in a major way (or all "mutants" - well that's just silly!) Like I have been saying - they won't cancel the X-Men - EVER - but I have a feeling they're going to do something that allows Disney not to fook around with FOX and movie rights.

    They had Dark Horse stop their run of STAR WARS (here very soon) - and what is Marvel doing?
    http://www.nerdist.com/2014/07/marve...ibus-editions/

    Releasing their old Star Wars comics again.

    Disney wants to capitalize in every regard. And if it means changing X-Men to something else - I see it happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Okay, let's add to the list of "Things Marvel Would never Do Because It Sounds Stupid"
    Why is it stupid though?
    What's wrong with young female readers having a big three Avenger they can look up to?
    Eric Masterson has been Thor, Beta-Ray Bill has been Thor, hell, a Frog has been Thor. Why can't a woman become Thor?

    We all know it'll be reversed by the time Avengers 2 is in theatres so why not enjoy the storyline if it's good. Or y'know, actually wait and see if it is before calling it stupid?

    Also, I see in this article that we are also getting a brand-new Captain America this fall as well.
    Again, See Bucky-Cap, Nomad, etc etc.

    Yup, there is No Way that Marvel will stop putting out X-Men books. LOL. Think Again, true believers!
    They won't.

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    (Even though there is already an existing Thor Girl).
    That's the equivalent of saying because there was Xavier there couldn't be Jean Grey, or Emma Frost, Or Psylocke.

    They had Dark Horse stop their run of STAR WARS (here very soon) - and what is Marvel doing?
    Releasing their old Star Wars comics again.
    That was always part of the license though.
    What's wrong with a new generation being able to finally read these comics for the first time?
    And new material is coming.

    Disney wants to capitalize in every regard.
    Which is the job of any company, surely?
    Do you work for free?

    And if it means changing X-Men to something else - I see it happening.
    Changing, possibly. Cancelling, no.
    As you said above the point is to capitalize; X-books sell, Inhuman books don't. Marvel aren't going to destroy profits just to spite Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Why is it stupid though?
    What's wrong with young female readers having a big three Avenger they can look up to?
    Eric Masterson has been Thor, Beta-Ray Bill has been Thor, hell, a Frog has been Thor. Why can't a woman become Thor?

    We all know it'll be reversed by the time Avengers 2 is in theatres so why not enjoy the storyline if it's good. Or y'know, actually wait and see if it is before calling it stupid?

    My point was, people are calling the rumours of cancelling (or halting, stopping, or momentarily ceasing, or ultimately changing) the X-Men comics Stupid...things Marvel would never do. Yet here are examples of huge changes coming, ones which people would never have believed would be happening, yet here they are.

    My comment was more about those who call the rumours of what is coming Stupid.

    And I don't necessarily think that changing Cap and Thor is a Bad Thing, not at all. Actually, I don't collect those titles (or any Marvel titles), so I couldn't care less. Heck, at this point, I am all for it! It is a 'plot' that Marvel has come up with, one to freshen up stories, and to sell more merch...which should indeed be expected of them. In the same way, whatever change comes to the X-Men comic franchise, will be done with the same thoughts in mind - and I likely won't think THAT is Stupid, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    My point was, people are calling the rumours of cancelling (or halting, stopping, or momentarily ceasing, or ultimately changing) the X-Men comics Stupid...things Marvel would never do.
    Changing is totally different though.

    The thread title specifically says the word 'Cancelling' which is ludicrous.

    There have been X-Men titles since 1963.

    Even when the title wasn't publishing new stories it reprinted old issues and thus there were X-titles.
    Even when the Age of Apocalypse were on there were X-titles.

    X-titles practically got Marvel through bankruptcy in the 90's.

    If you took out every X-title in the Top 300 Marvel would seriously lose their marketshare and not make a profit.

    Yet here are examples of huge changes coming, ones which people would never have believed would be happening, yet here they are.
    Changes are not 'Cancelling' though - There will still be a Thor title and a Captain America title.

    My comment was more about those who call the rumours of what is coming Stupid.
    You're the only one that's used the word stupid though.
    Panicking that the sky is falling or prematurely dancing on Marvel's grave based on unsubstantiated rumours of 'Cancelling' X-titles is pointless.
    If we get an official press release from Marvel saying that the X-Titles have been 'cancelled' then people can deal with it (and you can fully rub this thread in my face)

    In the same way, whatever change comes to the X-Men comic franchise, will be done with the same thoughts in mind - and I likely won't think THAT is Stupid, either.
    Then I'm really lost as to what your point is.

    The whole thing stemmed from rumours regarding the Fantastic Four title.
    Fantastic Four is a different beast; it's less profitable and it's one single title.
    I can totally see another FF situation or a Heroes Reborn situation; but again that's a change, not a cancellation.
    However I admit cancellation could be possible for that particular title based solely on money.

    The X-titles won't be cancelled.
    Changed, is a possibility; and I've never disagreed with that.

    Even if the only X-titles are ones without the word "X-Men" (ie. Cyclops, Storm, X-Factor, whatever...) there will still be X-titles.

    Wolverine, even in death hasn't been cancelled; there are at least a year's worth of books with Wolverine in the title coming out while he's dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistressMerr View Post
    Whatever they do with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in order to make them (and possibly some variation on mutants in general) viable for the MCU isn't going to suddenly rearrange the entire mutant corner of the comic world, especially since the movie isn't even finished being made yet.
    Really?

    Well, isn't it possible that Marvel has come up with a plan of action that has some big cosmic character coming along, The Collector or The High Evolutionary or Thanos, or whomever, and this character then reveals that "mutants" were never any such thing. That they aren't the next stage of human evolution, but something implanted into humans on purpose.

    That is really all that it would take to "suddenly rearrange the entire mutant corner of the comic world" - it makes perfect sense, at that point, to have all "mutant" titles drop the terms mutant and mutie, even drop the "X" out of the titles, change things up and go on, somewhat sort-of status quo, but with a big change in behind the scenes.

    That also alleviates any pressure when it comes to Marvel Studios now using characters that were 'previously associated' with the X-Men, as the X-Men are no more.

    You see, that is the problem here; I can see PLENTY of perfectly logical reasons for Marvel to change up the mutant corner of its universe.

    And, let's be honest of two things here; (1) Fans of a certain book, aren't going to drop it suddenly because its characters no longer call themselves mutants (or Marvel changes the title of the series), and (2) Marvel doesn't make much money on comics, they are MUCH more concerned with movies and other merchandising where they make the real bucks.
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