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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Eberly View Post
    Commonly where? I don't believe I have ever seen him even suggested he might possibly be a mutant.

    Granted, I haven't read Uncanny X-Force so I don't know if he's been retconned there. If he has, then my respect for the creator did so just plummeted.
    No, nowhere in UXF is he referred to as one and Humphries knows better.
    Definitely not commonly referred to. This new poster is the only person I've ever seen call Puck a mutant.

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    http://marvel.wikia.com/Eugene_Judd_(Earth-616)

    See the "Notes" portion near the bottom. Puck was never meant to be a mutant, eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marvelnowfansite View Post
    If I was going to create an Avengers team oriented in Canada, I would probably use some of the following characters in some form: Vindicator, Guardian, Sasquatch, Shaman, Snowbird, Groundhog, Talisman, Yukon Jack, Major Mapleleaf, Marrina Smallwood and/or Validator. Team Alpha. Discussion welcomed here...

    I would also create a team of Canadian mutants using characters like: Puck, Northstar, Aurora, Madison Jeffries (BOX), Diamond Lil, Windshear, Witchfire, Persuasion (Purple Girl), Wild Child, and even Stitch, Flex, Murmur, Radius a trainees. Team Omega. Also discussion welcomed here...

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    I'll play this game, briefly.

    I'd create an Avengers Canada team (and subsequent comic book), with team members Hercules, Black Knight, Sasquatch, Shaman, Snowbird, Hank Pym (in whatever capacity he is serving/fighting in/as), Major Maple Leaf (give him some tech powers?), and the team led by Validator. (I think the scientists Pym and Langkowski would like each other. Hercules would hit on Snowbird. MML would look up to...everybody.)

    Then, I'd create a X-Men North team (and subsequent comic book), with team members Puck, Northstar, Aurora, Longshot, X-23, Flatman, Madison Jeffries, and Warpath, and the team led by Joseph (ye olde long-haired Magneto clone). (I like having Jeffries on one team, and Pym on another, it balances things nicely. How would Northstar and Aurora get along in close company? I like x-23, the Wolvie clone, being in Canada. I always love "Magneto" as a hero. And Flatman? He's just seriously underused.)

    I'd have them come into conflict with each other (I'd like to think that Northstar and Sasquatch still despise each other!). I'd also have them come into conflict with the underground sensation team, Alpha Flight, a team still not recognized by their government and Mac in particular on the CSIS' most wanted list. Mac would be obsessed, of course, with finding Heather and his daughter. The Alpha Flight team would consist of Guardian, Purple Girl, Wendigo, Wyre, Citadel, Ranark, Yukon Jack, and Nemesis; not necessarily the team Mac would choose, but the team he is stuck with.
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    If they did a Canadian version of The Avengers (a thought that makes me cringe...not because I don't want a Canadian title, I just hate the thought of further diluting a brand name that's already so diluted it's basically water), I would call it The Eh-Vengers.

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    Hmm... MNF, I just posted to you on another thread, saying Puck isn't a mutant. Sorry, I hadn't read this thread yet, and didn't realise that you actively think he is, and feel strongly enough about it to argue the point.

    That said:

    Quote Originally Posted by marvelnowfansite View Post
    Many members of all the X-Titles ever published have NOT been mutants. Recently Omega Sentinel, Deathlok, Hepzibah, Fantomex, or even Longshot, Juggernaut and the "bamfs" are NOT mutants. Or at least not on Earth-616.
    Here you seem to be contradicting your point, and agreeing that he isn't a mutant? Because that post concedes that your only given reasons for thinking he is (long life and being on an X-team) don't make him a mutant.

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    Puck assumed his regular age
    Ah, there's your problem right there. You should never assume. It makes an ascot out of you and me.
    (I don't dare write 'donkey'...)

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    Wow...it censored my perfectly viable word that means: "Slowed-down"?
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    The ******ed aging thing was explained by the presence of Razer inside Puck for however many decades it was.
    Is that what you wrote? I'd read your post and thought you were going for... a different word there, and censored yourself. Wow, that's just bad. Like the time somebody got auto-corrected so they wrote with an 'African-American pen'.

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    I just hate the thought of further diluting a brand name that's already so diluted it's basically water
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    I'll play this game, briefly.

    I'd create an Avengers Canada team (and subsequent comic book), with team members Hercules, Black Knight, Sasquatch, Shaman, Snowbird, Hank Pym (in whatever capacity he is serving/fighting in/as), Major Maple Leaf (give him some tech powers?), and the team led by Validator. (I think the scientists Pym and Langkowski would like each other. Hercules would hit on Snowbird. MML would look up to...everybody.)

    Then, I'd create a X-Men North team (and subsequent comic book), with team members Puck, Northstar, Aurora, Longshot, X-23, Flatman, Madison Jeffries, and Warpath, and the team led by Joseph (ye olde long-haired Magneto clone). (I like having Jeffries on one team, and Pym on another, it balances things nicely. How would Northstar and Aurora get along in close company? I like x-23, the Wolvie clone, being in Canada. I always love "Magneto" as a hero. And Flatman? He's just seriously underused.)

    I'd have them come into conflict with each other (I'd like to think that Northstar and Sasquatch still despise each other!). I'd also have them come into conflict with the underground sensation team, Alpha Flight, a team still not recognized by their government and Mac in particular on the CSIS' most wanted list. Mac would be obsessed, of course, with finding Heather and his daughter. The Alpha Flight team would consist of Guardian, Purple Girl, Wendigo, Wyre, Citadel, Ranark, Yukon Jack, and Nemesis; not necessarily the team Mac would choose, but the team he is stuck with.
    WOW!! Totally a different look from what I was thinking. I LOVE IT!
    I especially like the Alpha Flight team you left off with: Guardian, Purple Girl, Wendigo, Wyre, Citadel, Ranark, Yukon Jack, and Nemesis!
    NICE! Mini-Series? Maybe a tie-in somehow with an X-Title? Better yet.. Guardians of the Galaxy.

    The Marvel NOW Universe is missing Alpha Flight and Excalibur in my opinion.

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    As it was unanimously pointed out to me in his thread, and admitting that I was wrong (at least in Earth-616); Puck is not a mutant. Please refer to http://marvel.com/universe/Puck_(Eugene_Judd) even as out-dated as it is.

    HOWEVER, in 2004, Marvel began a new Alpha Flight series which featured a female character named Puck. The character, whose real name was Zuzha Yu, was a mutant who worked at a bar near McGill University in Montreal and was supposedly the daughter of the original Puck. Apparently she was one of the members of Alpha Flight apparently killed by The Collective. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Collective_(comics)

    Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.

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    Sorry to gang up on ya, dude.

    You are right about Zuzha, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marvelnowfansite View Post
    As it was unanimously pointed out to me in his thread, and admitting that I was wrong (at least in Earth-616); Puck is not a mutant. Please refer to http://marvel.com/universe/Puck_(Eugene_Judd) even as out-dated as it is.

    HOWEVER, in 2004, Marvel began a new Alpha Flight series which featured a female character named Puck. The character, whose real name was Zuzha Yu, was a mutant who worked at a bar near McGill University in Montreal and was supposedly the daughter of the original Puck. Apparently she was one of the members of Alpha Flight apparently killed by The Collective. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Collective_(comics)

    Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.
    Again, while I admire your determination you're presenting information that's a decade old and already documented on this site:
    http://alphaflight.net/showwiki/Puck_II
    http://alphaflight.net/showwiki/Weapon_Omega_II

    Besides which, it was never confirmed in print that she was a mutant, and even if she was she's dead so wasn't raptured and has no baring on her father's powers and certainly no connection to Validator...

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