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    So, i thought i would start a thread about Image Comics.

    Feel free to say anything you want about them; rant about them, rave about them, say which you liked or didn't like, talk about artists or writers who worked with them (anybody meet any of them?), that sort of thing.

    As a background, I didn't read Image Comics hot off the news stand, so I never had any of the problems with issues not shipping on time that many did back in the day; my love of Image Comics came from digging through boxes and finding them as back issues.

    I used to have more than i do now, as my entire catalogue of comics got "deleted" around 2000 or so.

    I most like Image Comics for the principle they operated behind, being that people deserved to own their own characters.

    As a way of starting off this thread, here is a list of Image Comics that I currently own:

    The Agency # 1 (a dual Top Cow / Image thing)
    Amber Atoms # 1
    Angela/Glory: Rage of Angels # 1
    Aphrodite IX # 2
    Arcanum # 1
    Badger # 5
    Badrock and Company # 1
    Badrock and Company # 2
    Berzerkers # 1
    Bloodpool # 1
    Bloodstrike Assassin # 1
    Bloodstrike # 29
    Bomb Queen # 1
    Brigade # 0
    Brigade # 1
    Brigade # 5
    Brit # 2
    Brit # 3
    Brit # 4
    Brit # 6
    Brit # 7
    Brit # 8
    Brit # 9
    Brit # 10
    Brit # 11
    Brit # 12
    Chapel # 1
    City of Heroes # 1
    City of Heroes # 2
    City of Heroes # 3
    City of Heroes # 4
    Clone # 1
    Codename: Stryke Force # 0
    Cyber Force Universe # 1
    Cyberpunx # 1
    Dart # 1
    Deathblow # 25
    Devlin # 1
    Dollz # 1
    Doom’s IV # 1
    DV8 # 1
    DV8 # 2
    DV8 # 3
    DV8 # 5
    DV8 # 7
    DV8 # 8
    DV8 # 9
    DV8 # 12
    Dynamo 5 # 0
    Dynamo 5 # 1
    Dynamo 5 # 4
    Dynamo 5 # 5
    Dynamo 5 # 6
    Dynamo 5 # 7
    Dynamo 5 # 8
    Dynamo 5 # 9
    Dynamo 5 # 10
    Dynamo 5 # 11
    Dynamo 5 # 12
    Dynamo 5 # 13
    Dynamo 5 # 14
    Dynamo 5 # 15
    Dynamo 5 # 16
    Dynamo 5 # 17
    Dynamo 5 # 18
    Dynamo 5 # 19
    Dynamo 5 # 20
    Dynamo 5 # 21
    Dynamo 5 # 22
    Dynamo 5 # 23
    Dynamo 5 # 24
    Dynamo 5 # 25
    Dynamo 5: Post-Nuclear Family Volume 1
    Eve Protomecha # 1
    Exposure # 1
    Frank Frazetta’s Moon Maid
    Freak Force # 1
    Freak Force # 4
    Freak Force # 10
    Freak Force # 11
    Gen 13 # 0
    Gen 13 # 5
    Gen 13 # 13A
    Gen 13 # 16
    Gen 13 # 18
    Gen 13 # 21
    Gen 13 # 22
    Gen 13 # 24
    Gen 13 # 25
    Gen 13 # 26
    Gen 13 # 28
    Gen 13 Annual # 1
    Gen 13 Bootleg # 2
    Gen 13 Bootleg # 4
    Gen 13 Bootleg # 7
    Gen 13 Bootleg # 10
    Gen 13 Bootleg # 12
    Gen 13 Bootleg # 13
    Gen 13: Ordinary Heroes # 1
    Gen13/Monkeyman and O'Brien # 1
    Gen13/Generation X # 1
    Gen 13: The Unreal World # 1
    Glory # 1
    Glory # 2
    Glory # 23
    Glory # 24
    Glory # 25
    Glory # 26
    Glory # 27
    Hack/Slash # 2
    Hack/Slash # 3
    Hack/Slash # 5
    Hack/Slash # 7
    Hack/Slash # 8
    Hack/Slash # 9
    Hack/Slash # 10
    Hack/Slash # 11
    Hack/Slash # 12
    Hack/Slash # 13
    Hack/Slash # 14
    Hack/Slash # 15
    Hack/Slash # 16
    Hack/Slash # 17
    Hack/Slash # 18
    Hack/Slash # 19
    Hack/Slash # 20
    Hack/Slash/Eva: Monster’s Ball Part One of Four (Image/Dynamite)
    Hack/Slash/Eva: Monster’s Ball Part Two of Four (Image/Dynamite)
    Hack/Slash/Eva: Monster’s Ball Part Four of Four (Image/Dynamite)
    Hack/Slash: Me Without You
    Hack/Slash Annual Number Three: Hatchet/Slash- Old School American Horror vs. Comic Book Horror Hunter
    Hunter Killer # 1
    Hunter Killer # 2
    Hyperkinetic # 1
    Hyperkinetic # 2
    Hyperkinetic # 3
    I Hate Gallant Girl # 1
    I Hate Gallant Girl # 2
    Invincible presents Atom Eve # 2
    Invincible Universe Primer # 1
    Killrazor Special # 1
    Law and Order # 1
    Lorna: Relic Wrangler
    Lynch # 1
    Maximage # 1
    The Mechanic # 1
    Mice Templar # 1
    Micronauts # 1 (2002 series)
    Monster Fighters Inc # 1
    Prophet: Babewatch Special # 1
    Prophet # 1
    Prophet # 3
    Ripclaw # 1
    Ripclaw # 3
    Riptide # 1
    Riptide # 2
    Saffire # 1
    Savage Dragon # 0
    Savage Dragon # 6
    Savage Dragon # 10
    Savage Dragon # 13
    Savage Dragon # 17
    Savage Dragon # 33
    Savage Dragon # 47
    Savage Dragon # 50
    Savage Dragon # 136
    Savant Garde # 1
    Shadowhawk II # 2
    Shark-Man # 1
    Sharky # 1 – signed by Dave Elliott and Alex Horley
    Shattered Image # 2
    She Dragon
    Sisters of Mercy # 1
    Sisters of Mercy # 2
    Superpatriot # 1
    Supreme # 5
    Supreme # 8
    Supreme # 14
    Supreme # 20
    Team Youngblood # 1
    Team Youngblood # 2
    Team Youngblood # 3
    Team Youngblood # 4
    Team Youngblood # 5
    Team Youngblood # 6
    Team Youngblood # 7
    Team Youngblood # 9
    Team Youngblood # 15
    Tellos # 1
    Tellos: Maiden Voyage # 1
    Todd and Craig’s The Perhapsanauts # 1
    Todd Nauck’s Wildguard: Casting Call
    Todd Nauck’s Wildguard Insider # 2
    Todd Nauck’s Wildguard Insider # 3
    Vix! # 1
    Vix! # 2
    Warlands: Banished Knights # 1
    Wetworks # 7
    WILDC.A.T.S: Covert Action Team # 1
    Youngblood # 1 (1991 series)
    Youngblood # 2 (1991 series)
    Youngblood # 3 (1991 series)
    Youngblood # 4 (1991 series)
    Youngblood # 5 (1991 series)
    Youngblood # 9 (1991 series)
    Youngblood # 1 (1998 series)
    Youngblood # 2 (1998 series)
    Youngblood # 4 (1998 series)
    Youngblood # 1 (2008 series)
    Youngblood # 2 (2008 series)
    Youngblood # 3 (2008 series)
    Youngblood # 71 (2012 continuation series)
    Youngblood # 72 (2012 continuation series)
    Youngblood # 73 (2012 continuation series)
    Youngblood # 74 (2012 continuation series)
    Youngblood: Strikefile # 7
    Youngblood: Strikefile # 11
    Youngblood/X-Force # 1



    Phew!
    Compiling that list took me back to some GREAT times!

    I am also going to include the following two titles in this list:
    Youngblood # 1
    Youngblood # 2
    They were published by Awesome-Hyperwerks in 1998, but is a two-issue run of Rob Liefeld's Youngblood nevertheless. Also of note is that these two issues were written by Alan Moore!
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    Y'know, I don't know how much Image I own, but I think it's like 2-3 individual issues. It's not much at all.

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    I've got a lot of Image stuff but it's all post2001 non superhero stuff.

    I absolutely love the range of genres that they put out.

    Prophet and Saga are my top two titles lately and the first things I read each month when I get my shipment.
    Fatale is beautiful and carries on the Brubaker-Phillips combo from Criminal
    & Incognito.
    The Walking Dead is a great read, although it does have dips in quality.

    Ill go into more detail at the weekend when I'm back at home rather than work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Fatale is beautiful...
    I keep noticing it in stores.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    The Walking Dead is a great read, although it does have dips in quality.
    I've heard great things about it. In fact, just last night I was talking to somebody in my writing group about how great he thought it was. ('He thought' because, not having read it, I can't comment.)
    Never heard about the dips in quality, though.

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    I know that a lot of people are skeptical about image because of it's 90's reputation AND a lot of people are wary of digital comics, but I'd definitely recommend anyone who is a fan of comics to go sign up for Comixology and download some of it's FREE Image #1's.

    I'd recommend:-
    America's Got Powers - Bryan Hitch
    Battle Hymn
    Butcher Baker
    Chew
    Dancer
    Danger Club
    Fatale
    Invincible
    Marineman - Ian Churchill, all ages super-hero
    Mind The Gap - by Jim McCann of Chaos War:Alpha Flight fame
    The Nightly News - Jonathan Hickman
    Peter Panzerfaust
    Prophet
    - The Liefeld stuff is #1-7. The pulp sci-fi Heavy Metal/200AD-esque stuff starts with #21
    Saga
    Skullkickers
    Thief Of Thieves
    The Walking Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Messor View Post
    Y'know, I don't know how much Image I own, but I think it's like 2-3 individual issues. It's not much at all.
    Which makes sense on two levels. You don't own much Image, because you don't really like them. Plus, you don't really like them partially because you don't own a bunch of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I know that a lot of people are skeptical about image because of it's 90's reputation AND a lot of people are wary of digital comics, but I'd definitely recommend anyone who is a fan of comics to go sign up for Comixology and download some of it's FREE Image #1's.

    I'd recommend:-
    America's Got Powers - Bryan Hitch
    Battle Hymn
    Butcher Baker
    Chew
    Dancer
    Danger Club
    Fatale
    Invincible
    Marineman - Ian Churchill, all ages super-hero
    Mind The Gap - by Jim McCann of Chaos War:Alpha Flight fame
    The Nightly News - Jonathan Hickman
    Peter Panzerfaust
    Prophet
    - The Liefeld stuff is #1-7. The pulp sci-fi Heavy Metal/200AD-esque stuff starts with #21
    Saga
    Skullkickers
    Thief Of Thieves
    The Walking Dead
    I will be the first to admit, Phil...out of your posted list, I have read/owned zero of them.

    Other than Youngblood, I don't really get much new Image Comics. I tried out their Glory series this year, but dropped it after a few issues; neither the art or story was what i was looking for (or anything at all like the original series). I was a big Hack/Slash fan for a few years, but recently dropped it due to budget constraints - at least with that series, i can say that I have at least SOME idea about Image's 'non superhero genre' comics. Generally speaking, i stick to superheroes, and prefer team settings over individuals.

    As a zombie-movie lover, you'd think I would have read an issue or two of The Walking Dead; I haven't. Nor have i seen the television series.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I know that a lot of people are skeptical about image because of it's 90's reputation
    I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I still have trouble wrapping my head around the fact that some people can't stand what Image did in the 90's (not saying you, Phil; just generalizing). Seems to me, they got some of the industry's very best artists and writers to come to their company from the Big Two, create their own characters, keep ownership of those characters, and told entertaining enough stories that they rivaled Marvel and DC for the better part of a decade, pretty much changing the fortunes of all small and/or independent comic companies forever.

    I admire stories about little guys making it big, especially when they are true.

    However, to each their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I know that a lot of people are skeptical about image because of it's 90's reputation
    Actually, from what I've heard, Image now has quite a good reputation. It's got all the good writers, apparently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Which makes sense on two levels. You don't own much Image, because you don't really like them. Plus, you don't really like them partially because you don't own a bunch of them.
    ... I don't think I said I didn't like Image. I wouldn't slam a comic just because of the publisher - unless the publisher refused to step outside of its, well, image.
    Some of Spawn has made me curious, for example, and see above re: their modern reputation.

    However, that said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I still have trouble wrapping my head around the fact that some people can't stand what Image did in the 90's (not saying you, Phil; just generalizing). Seems to me, they got some of the industry's very best artists and writers to come to their company from the Big Two, create their own characters, keep ownership of those characters, and told entertaining enough stories
    Nothing they did in the 90s appealed to me at the time. (What I said about Spawn happened years after the fact.) Everything I saw from them just turned me off. That doesn't mean I'll automatically hate a comic just for having the Image logo on the cover, but it does mean that what I saw didn't make me go pick it up.

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    I recently purchased some comics online, which arrived on my doorstep last week (the comics did, I mean). Included were some Dreadstar comics from both Marvel and Epic Comics, a bunch of Youngblood issues from Image, and a few issues of a more recent flavour that I needed in order to help complete collections, etc.

    This is a good place to stop and mention that i was pleasantly surprised by Avengers Academy # 31; I had not only forgotten that it contained an appearance by Madison Jeffries and a "sort-of" Box, it also featured a great letter by some strange fellow from Australia! (Mik, I could not have agreed with your letter, in it's entirety, more than I did. Incidentally, was it reprinted in the comic with or without editing and cutting?)

    One of the comics i received was issue number one of Youngblood, from 2008, written by Joe Casey, art by Derec Donovan, colours by Bill Crabtree. Inside was a great page written by Image Comics, Inc 's Publisher, Erik Larsen, entitled "Grand Larseny"

    I'm reprinting this page below. Have a read, and see if his words still hold true today...


    You know what I love about Image Comics? (And I do love Image Comics, like nobody’s business). I love that you can buy a comic – any comic – and you get it all in that one book. If you buy the new Youngblood, out this month, you don’t need to buy Dynamo 5 or Godland or Spawn in order to make sense of it all. And there aren’t huge, phony events that promise to “change the universe forever” and tie into every book under the sun and cost a king’s ransom to keep up with. If you want to follow one Image book, all you need to buy is that one title.

    And that’s the way we like things.

    I’ve worked at comic companies that engaged in all manner of mind-numbingly stupid crossover events and I’ve had to interrupt what I had planned and put it aside in order to accommodate these abominations. The comics that resulted were not pretty.

    The truth is that comics – or anything – created by committee, are more often than not, pretty darned awful. You get too many cooks in the kitchen and things start getting nasty. You get a whole tangle of suits knocking their heads together in order to maintain the status quo while still presenting readers with the illusion of change. Things get pretty dumb pretty fast. And you know it’s just a matter of time before the latest shocking death of a beloved character is undone as readers are, yet again, shocked to find that everything was not as it appeared. Comic fans can set their watches on who’s going to get bumped off and resurrected.

    And I don’t know about you, but I’m a little bored by it all.

    The truth of the matter is, I’m far more interested in reading books by creators who are telling their own stories without taking dictation from some bigwig with a master plan. I like the fact guys at Image can spin their own yarns without feeling that some successive creative team will come along later to undo everything they did.

    And it’s nice to be able to drop into a world for an issue or two without feeling pressured to fork out upwards of a hundred bucks in order to get the rest of the story.

    These over-hyped, over-sold extravaganzas almost always disappoint. Heck, anyone who sat through the Star Wars Prequels can tell you that. The original Star Wars? Perfect example of a creator telling the story he wanted to tell, without piling on the hype and giving his audience the old hard-sell. Fans of those original movies were buying into the story, not the marketing plan – and everyone was better for it.

    I just want to read a comic book, darn it – I wasn’t looking to make a year-long commitment to some disjointed, unwieldy, overpriced, over-hyped crossover event that leads into yet another disjointed, unwieldy, overpriced, over-hyped crossover event.

    Maybe it’s just me.

    - Erik Larsen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I still have trouble wrapping my head around the fact that some people can't stand what Image did in the 90's (not saying you, Phil; just generalizing). Seems to me, they got some of the industry's very best artists and writers to come to their company from the Big Two, create their own characters, keep ownership of those characters, and told entertaining enough stories that they rivaled Marvel and DC for the better part of a decade, pretty much changing the fortunes of all small and/or independent comic companies forever.

    I admire stories about little guys making it big, especially when they are true.

    However, to each their own.
    For the comic industry and people that read comics the formation of Image is perhaps the greatest comics revolution of the last 40-50 years.
    What the founders did was unheard of and a lot of people in comics today owe them their careers.

    The problem was that for non-comic people the so-called 'image superhero style' that Youngblood etc. went on to become and embodied became a joke and summed up everything bad and stereotypical about the industry; cheesecake women, contorted non-anatomically correct people, giant splash pages, hard to read panel ordering, lack of backgrounds, extreme pouches/guns, over the top speedlines & sound effects... etc etc... and that was before the shipping issues and founder fights.


    But Image have been nothing if resourceful, insightful and smart; their business plan is the best regarding creators rights and payment and they opened up to all genres and types of stories.

    I still buy more Marvel titles than anything each month (although my Image pull is closer than ever now) but that's through my nostalgic love of the characters and the superhero genre. I don't need to get my superhero itch scratched from image. And vice versa; I don't want my Marvel comics to be uber-serious and true to life.

    For me, a good comic is a good comic. And there's a place for multiple publishers in my heart.
    I watch and read a variety of genres in films, tv and books so want the same from comics.

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    The problem was that for non-comic people the so-called 'image superhero style' that Youngblood etc. went on to become and embodied became a joke and summed up everything bad and stereotypical about the industry; cheesecake women, contorted non-anatomically correct people, giant splash pages, hard to read panel ordering, lack of backgrounds, extreme pouches/guns, over the top speedlines & sound effects... etc etc... and that was before the shipping issues and founder fights.
    Perhaps i find myself in the minority, but what you have described is EXACTLY what i want from a comic book company.

    What I DON'T want, is super-serious, grim and moody, and a bunch of gimmicks.

    I would have preferred that Image had more character development back in the 90's, true. But I like my comics to be big, splashy, lots of fights, good over evil; at least it lets you cheer for a side. Seriously, how could i ever cheer for Wolverine?!? Hasn't the guy killed almost as many people as Hitler did? Sure, it is just comics, but I prefer that evil acts evil and good acts good, not vice versa.

    Just my opinion, of course.

    For the comic industry and people that read comics the formation of Image is perhaps the greatest comics revolution of the last 40-50 years.
    What the founders did was unheard of and a lot of people in comics today owe them their careers. Image have been nothing if resourceful, insightful and smart; their business plan is the best regarding creators rights and payment and they opened up to all genres and types of stories.
    Nicely put!

    For me, a good comic is a good comic. And there's a place for multiple publishers in my heart.
    Oh, I agree with you there. I am sure that more than a third of my comic book collection consists of titles/issues put out by other than Marvel and DC. I'm just at a point where i am tired of the same-old same-old from Marvel, wrapped up in a different package but it contains exactly the same thing it has for the last 30 years or more. My Marvel pull-list is currently at zero, although i am going to give Fearless Defenders a try for a few issues. DC will likely be next on my hit list to be shot down in flames. I liked the balls they had with their entire reboot, but i have found that, of the titles from them I collect, they have taken a full year until the stories have actually gotten interesting. I agree with what Mr. Liefeld said about DC when he left them recently, about their being too much editorial interference and no opportunity within it to tell the stories that the writers want to tell. That stifles creativity. I'm giving DC about 6 months to pick up the slack and unleash those creative minds, or I am pulling the plug on the 5 or 6 titles I currently get from them.

    I need to keep reminding myself; every dollar I spend on a big-two comic that isn't up to par, just so I can "stay in the loop" on what is happening at said company, is one less dollar i can spend on an independent comic that has balls-out writing. I feel that i miss out on a lot of good series that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Perhaps i find myself in the minority, but what you have described is EXACTLY what i want from a comic book company.
    As did many comics readers, but it put non-comics people off and became their perceived view (& thus stereotype) of comics in the 90's, and to an extent to this day. (Eclipsed only by the 60's Batman TV BIFF! POW! KA-ZAM! etc..)

    What I DON'T want, is super-serious, grim and moody, and a bunch of gimmicks.
    Yet 90's image had as much of that as Marvel & DC, let's not forget that.

    Seriously, how could i ever cheer for Wolverine?!? Hasn't the guy killed almost as many people as Hitler did? Sure, it is just comics, but I prefer that evil acts evil and good acts good, not vice versa.
    As with Spawn, Youngblood, Stormwatch etc... again, let's not make image out to be angels and Marvel/DC to be devils.

    I need to keep reminding myself; every dollar I spend on a big-two comic that isn't up to par, just so I can "stay in the loop" on what is happening at said company, is one less dollar i can spend on an independent comic that has balls-out writing. I feel that i miss out on a lot of good series that way.
    I agree to an extent, but you still seem to be fixed on 'big-two' versus the world.
    A good comic is a good comic, a bad comic is a bad comic; ignore who the publisher is.

    Just as a matter of interest; anyone reading this - does your LCS split new weekly comics up into New Marvel, New DC, New Image, New indie on the shelf, or just New comics A-Z?
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    Just as a matter of interest; anyone reading this - does your LCS split new weekly comics up into New Marvel, New DC, New Image, New indie on the shelf, or just New comics A-Z?
    Mine splits in 4's; Trade Paperbacks, Marvel, Independents, DC.

    I agree to an extent, but you still seem to be fixed on 'big-two' versus the world.
    A good comic is a good comic, a bad comic is a bad comic; ignore who the publisher is.
    Fair enough. But, I think this goes back to the comment by Mr. Larsen that
    I just want to read a comic book, darn it – I wasn’t looking to make a year-long commitment to some disjointed, unwieldy, overpriced, over-hyped crossover event that leads into yet another disjointed, unwieldy, overpriced, over-hyped crossover event.
    Even more than that, I have been feeling lately that I am hanging onto Big-Two titles, merely because the familiar is easier than change. I think that, for the most part, independents push more against the boundaries, because they have LESS boundaries, and therefore tend to be the ones that break new ground nowadays. Marvel and DC live off of toys, movies, and merchandising, thus have very little reason to change up the way they do comics business (yes, I know; they also are the top two selling comics companies), while the smaller independents are forced to live 'solely' (mainly) off their comics sales. That means independents tend to attract writers who are willing to branch out, try something new, something different, that they probably wouldn't be able to do at M/DC.

    All in all, at the end of the day, it's just my thoughts (and they do tend to be odd ones).

    I also like cheese. And cake. And cheesecake. Strangely enough, even though I like cats, and pancakes, I don't care for cat pancakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Mine splits in 4's; Trade Paperbacks, Marvel, Independents, DC.
    See, I think that's really bad in this day and age and hurts comic sales. Segregation isn't healthy.

    Fair enough. But, I think this goes back to the comment by Mr. Larsen that
    People can always opt out of crossovers though!
    No-one is forced by gunpoint to buy them - this is what i don't get.

    Even more than that, I have been feeling lately that I am hanging onto Big-Two titles, merely because the familiar is easier than change.
    I can see that; like I said, it's a lot of nostalgia for me.

    I think that, for the most part, independents push more against the boundaries, because they have LESS boundaries, and therefore tend to be the ones that break new ground nowadays.
    Totally agreed.
    But do I want my superhero comics to constantly break new ground?

    Marvel and DC live off of toys, movies, and merchandising, thus have very little reason to change up the way they do comics business (yes, I know; they also are the top two selling comics companies), while the smaller independents are forced to live 'solely' (mainly) off their comics sales. That means independents tend to attract writers who are willing to branch out, try something new, something different, that they probably wouldn't be able to do at M/DC.
    Yeah... the whole Time Warner/Aol/DC industry changed a lot of things leading to Marvel Entertainment and Disney/Marvel... it's a strange beast.

    All in all, at the end of the day, it's just my thoughts (and they do tend to be odd ones).
    And you're welcome to them and to share them!

    I also like cheese. And cake. And cheesecake. Strangely enough, even though I like cats, and pancakes, I don't care for cat pancakes.
    I LOVE cheesecake.
    I can take or leave cats though...

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    People can always opt out of crossovers though!
    No-one is forced by gunpoint to buy them - this is what i don't get.
    Sorry, i didn't make that very clear. I was meaning i'm tired of gimmicks, and phrases like "everything changes" and "nothing will ever be the same" and "brand new", when the product basically stays the same. I realize that is marketing and advertising, and i know it works, but i still hate it. I want the meat and potatoes, i want the innards of the comic to be the thing that thrills me, the story, the art - i could care less about the rest, and i choose to, as much as possible, not be affected too much by any advertising ploy, in any sort of sales, or in politics, etc. I prefer to think for myself, and like to believe that i do - i probably don't, but I at least try. And that is not to knock those who follow trends or fashions. Well, 'maybe' it is.


    Okay, and just to guide the train down it's original tracks, here is a link to a Rob Liefeld interview just before Youngblood starting pumping out comics again.
    http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=38825
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