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[Le Messor]

That's a poor trade, no matter what you gave up to get it.

Just a paperclip.

Sounds like Delphine Courtney after her meeting with Madison.

Well, there was precedent in Universe / Earth X for this version of Mac. This is more the return of the Mac.

~ Le Messor
"It is not enough to have a good mind. The main thing is to use it well."
~ Descartes

[Le Messor]

Well... mangled cyborg Guardian so to an extent... yeah...

With that in mind, it turns out he's on the cover to #4, too.

[Phil]

Technically yeah, Paradise X #4 is sort of a cover appearance

[Legerd]

Ross didn't do Ruins, and only did the covers for Earth/Universe/Paradise X so we've only seen his Sas.

Whoops, my bad. I was sure it had been Ross that did it. I remembered his name being very prominent in the credits, and assumed he was the artist.

[Le Messor]

I just checked my copies, and didn't see his name.
Maybe it was advertised as 'inspired by Alex Ross's Marvels' or something?

~ Le Messor
"Facts speak louder than statistics."
~ Sir Geoffrey Streatfield

[Legerd]

I just checked my copies, and didn't see his name.
Maybe it was advertised as 'inspired by Alex Ross's Marvels' or something?

I found a couple of my Paradise X issues, and Ross is listed for story, cover artist, and character design. I think that is the source of my confusion.

[Le Messor]

I found a couple of my Paradise X issues, and Ross is listed for story, cover artist, and character design. I think that is the source of my confusion.

I wondered if that was it.

Earth / Universe / Paradise X are completely unrelated to Ruins.
(Actually, I only just finished my second read of the first Paradise X trade last night. Only just got it.)

~ Le Messor
"It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances."

[Legerd]

I wondered if that was it.

Earth / Universe / Paradise X are completely unrelated to Ruins.
(Actually, I only just finished my second read of the first Paradise X trade last night. Only just got it.)

Yes, that was the source. The Ruins mistake was entirely me linking it to the Earth/Universe/Paradise X through faulty memory.

[Le Messor]

The Ruins mistake was entirely me linking it to the Earth/Universe/Paradise X through faulty memory.

Not to mention similar themes / styles, and that they both rode on the coattails of Marvels (and, I would imagine, Kingdom Come).
It's a very understandable mistake.

~ Le Messor
"It is the capacity to enjoy life that brings contentment."

[Flightpath07]

Faulty memory can sometimes be restored with a good Hard Drive scan, followed by the addition of more RAM.

I hope this helps.

[Legerd]

Faulty memory can sometimes be restored with a good Hard Drive scan, followed by the addition of more RAM.

I hope this helps.

I usually rely on a good, swift (re)boot to the head..

[Le Messor]

Yeah, sorry FP, but I've gotta go with Legerd on this one.

[Raja]

Oh yeah! I just re-read it and Walter keeps referring to Wild Child as "kid".. interesting!

I used to think the same thing about possibly being his son and wondered where Scott Lobdel was going with Walt's guilt toward WC. Furman's explanation was lacking, IIRC Walter altered Kyle's psych records so he could remain in the Flight Program. Would've preferred something different. These days I like to think Kyle is the son of Sabretooth.

[EccentricSage]

My pet theory is that Wildchild was altered using Sabretooth's DNA rather that Wyre's. A wrench was already thrown into the paternity theory when all mutants were depowered except for the ones who had a mutant parent, and one of the depowered guys was Wildchild, even if it didn't last long.

Personally I kind of like the idea that Walter forged those records to keep WC in the Flight Program, and that this is why he felt responsible. I mean, the Flight program actually could have helped Kyle if things had gone differently, where as we all know the result of them just turning him loose. I think it adds depth to Sas, that he did something so unethical because he thought the alternative would be worse. There is hubris in the fact that the forgery may have made it more of a surprise later when Wildchild lost his mind. It just paints the picture of an impossible situation, where the outcome was bad no matter what, but at least he cared about the troubled young victim of experimentation and did what he could.

I wish they'd focus on Walter in this light, more, because it really makes the character lovable but also flawed, which is crucial for a character to be relateable.

[Mokole]

Well, better than a wench being thrown into a paternity theory at least....