Marvel Cancellations?

[Flightpath07]

http://gpryme.tumblr.com/post/27336046129/a-plus-x-sdcc

New series will be A+X.



And...very good article below on creator-owned comics doing well.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/bu...pagewanted=all

[Le Messor]

That Shi'ar character whose name I don't remember? And Peanut (?)

uh... interesting choices...

- Le Messor
"I'm not a complete idiot - Some parts are missing!"

[Sypes]

Since Iceman and Warbird are in that A+X #1 cover, does that mean that the team with Northstar - Astonishing X-Men - doesn't exist already? Maybe he's getting his own series ? *crosses fingers*

[Phil]

The Astonishing team still exists.
A+X is a limited anyway.

[Flightpath07]

The company is moving creative teams, and cancelling 9 books: Captain America, Fantastic Four, FF, Incredible Hulk, Invincible Iron Man, New Mutants, The Mighty Thor, Uncanny X-Men and X-Men Legacy.

http://blog.midtowncomics.com/marvel/5608/

[Phil]

Yeah, but Captain America, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Iron Man and Thor are getting new #1's the next month so they're just rebooting rather than cancelling.
Uncanny X-Men is becoming All New X-Men so again thats a reboot.
The other two... pass...

[Le Messor]

... The other two...

Which did you forget - New Mutants, Legacy, or FF?

None of the new titles interest me yet, but I said that about the new 52 from DC and started reading two of their titles - which I will probably soon upgrade to 1!
So, that shows how wrong I can be...

- Le Messor
"I'm out of bed and dressed. What more do you want?"

[Flightpath07]

Well, as I pointed out on page one of this thread, back two weeks ago,

With all the talk about the restructuring, and there is a lot of talk about it already, nobody yet (outside of Joe Q and a few others, i'll bet) seems to know what current Marvel titles will last and which'll get the boot (or "the change").

Phil, it wasn't a thread so much about which will get cancelled, as admitting that some would be cancelled and some would be "changed" and/or rebooted, and how nobody (at that time) knew too much about which titles would be which.

Mik, I get 3 Marvel titles, 6 DC titles, and 6 "other publisher" titles. And i expect that last category to be the one that climbs very quickly.

[Le Messor]

, and 6 "other publisher" titles. And i expect that last category to be the one that climbs very quickly.

Why am I not surprised?

[Phil]

Which did you forget - New Mutants, Legacy, or FF?

My bad; I forgot FF as that's what I've always called Fantastic Four as shorthand.

Phil, it wasn't a thread so much about which will get cancelled, as admitting that some would be cancelled and some would be "changed" and/or rebooted, and how nobody (at that time) knew too much about which titles would be which.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. My point was that Midtown's line that you quoted clearly uses the word 'cancelled' which they're not. My issue is with the way they phrased it, not you.

[Flightpath07]

Actually, a series that starts again at number 1, in my books, had to of been cancelled. But that is semantics.

Michael, smaller publishers, as we all know, do not have the luxury of propping up a dwindling industry by use of big movies and the accompanying merchandising blitz. Smaller companies frequently lure the best names in the business (taking, for instance, those Marvel recently fired in their "down-sizing" - see numerous stories on the rapid rise of Valiant Comics as a great example), and they have to tell the best stories they are capable of, issue after issue. And, even then, they may not make their mark in the industry, but if they don't it won't be for lack of try or lack of talent. I admire the smaller publishers; like Image in the 90's, they pushed the biggest boys in the sandbox (Marvel and DC) to the brink of bankruptcies. They force change in the industry, by setting high standards and meeting or exceeding them. Just because something doesn't have Marvel or DC on the cover, doesn't mean it isn't good; those of you who may miss out on what the smaller comic companies are doing, I feel sad for you and for what you will miss. (Not saying "you", just whomever.)

[Phil]

Actually, a series that starts again at number 1, in my books, had to of been cancelled. But that is semantics.

Semantics, definitely.
I see it as; take a TV Series, Season 1 has an Episode 1, Season 2 has an Episode 1. They're the same show, it hasn't been cancelled until a final episode is made. Just that season has ended. In comics, that Volume has ended.

Especially in comics where an #1 follows immediately the 4 weeks after #529 (or whatever) as a reboot.

AF with years between series'/volumes is a cancellation followed by a relaunch.

But again, just how my mind sees it.

[Le Messor]

My bad; I forgot FF as that's what I've always called Fantastic Four as shorthand.

Pretty much everyone did. It's always been a problem with that title.

Michael, smaller publishers, as we all know, do not have the luxury of propping up a dwindling industry by use of big movies and the accompanying merchandising blitz. Smaller companies frequently lure the best names in the business...

FP,
my 'why am I not surprised' was not meant to mean a cynical 'oh, that's so typical of you' so much as, 'considering the offerings of Marvel and DC lately, of course people are being driven to the indies - even if they got started by reading the big two'.

That said, I've always found indie titles harder to read; in the sense that they're published less reliably, and my LCSs get them in even less reliably. That second isn't their fault, but still makes it literally difficult to read a full series.

I see it as; take a TV Series, Season 1 has an Episode 1, Season 2 has an Episode 1. They're the same show, it hasn't been cancelled until a final episode is made. Just that season has ended. In comics, that Volume has ended.

Please, let's not start this argument again. :/

- Le Messor
"I'm so high, I can hear Heaven... But Heaven can't hear me."
~ Hero, Chad Kroeger and Josie Scott

[Flightpath07]

FP,
my 'why am I not surprised' was not meant to mean a cynical 'oh, that's so typical of you' so much as, 'considering the offerings of Marvel and DC lately, of course people are being driven to the indies - even if they got started by reading the big two'.

Well, even if you had meant it in a "I'm not surprised, as you're hating on Marvel a lot lately" sort of way, I'd be okay with that, cuz it is true. That being said, glad we were on the same page. Again, my rant was not directed at you per se, it was just a general rant ("General Rant, reporting for duty, sir!").

That said, I've always found indie titles harder to read; in the sense that they're published less reliably, and my LCSs get them in even less reliably. That second isn't their fault, but still makes it literally difficult to read a full series.

I try to find something that it sounds like i will enjoy, before issue one comes out, and then special-order it through my LCS. Most shops will bring in what you want, if you are guaranteed to buy it.

[Le Messor]

I try to find something that it sounds like i will enjoy, before issue one comes out, and then special-order it through my LCS. Most shops will bring in what you want, if you are guaranteed to buy it.

In theory... In theory, Communism works.

In practice, there are usually a lot of skipped issues; and they're harder to play catchup on than the Big Two.

- Le Messor
"I'm sorry. I'm very, very sorry, but if it makes you feel any better, my "fun time Buffy party night" involved watching a robot throw Spike through a window, so if you wanna trade... no... wait... I wouldn't give that memory up for anything."
~ Buffy