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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    All those with four toes per foot get into the Master Party for free!
    The ones with four toes are already in his party, but with the Master there's always a cover charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legerd View Post
    The ones with four toes are already in his party, but with the Master there's always a cover charge.
    Yes, but on the dance floor does anybody have two left feet?
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    No, they tend to use their own feet. No sense in using ones left by someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legerd View Post
    The ones with four toes are already in his party, but with the Master there's always a cover charge.
    Well, you should've been at the last party. We didn't get home 'til three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Seriously though, if we DON'T do that, then all we have is a story that means little to us and that we cannot emotionally connect with. And if that is all these stories become, if we don't live them out in our minds and talk about them in great and minute detail, then what use is this site, or any site about any comics books at all?!
    I agree 100% on everything to this point.

    In fact, i think that we HAVE TO put our real-world sensibilities into our discussions of comic books, lest all we have are conversations about nothing at all. If we cannot compare them to real life, then what are we to compare them to? For real life, after all, is all we know.
    It's fine to put real-world sensibilities into our discussions as long as you put them into the context of their world (or universe). Like I stated before, entire nations (and worlds, for that matter) of people have been wiped off their Earth with nary a ripple in the social, economic, or political landscape of the rest of the world. I can put real-world sensibilities into Star Wars, yet it has very little to do contextually with my world.

    Anyway, I've decided that Cody was just a Life Model Decoy that The Master reprogrammed to serve his needs and the entirety of Parliament Hill was rebuilt by Damage Control over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Eberly View Post
    Anyway, I've decided that Cody was just a Life Model Decoy that The Master reprogrammed to serve his needs and the entirety of Parliament Hill was rebuilt by Damage Control over the weekend.
    I like it!

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    Default Not so much a stickler for "Realism" as plausibilty

    I can barely keep up with super-advanced aliens trying to conquer/enslave/dominate/destroy/repopulate Alpha Flight's "world".

    Most importantly, I like reading about a character who can manipulate the magnetic fields in order to fly and move things; who is a shape-shifting demi-goddess; who can pull objects of various sizes out of a pouch and levitate; who can run and fly faster than I can comprehend; who can transform into an immensely powerful being of ambiguous origin; who is an alien created to dominate, and; who is a heroic, acrobatic former Government agent with more courage and determination than people twice his size. If I'm putting any real-world sensiblities into suspending disbelief enough to be entertained by that, I don't know what else to say. In Alpha Flight's world, the Master made a mess.

    I like the "Life Model Decoy" idea for Cody, too. [(Post-Omega Flight) Brown has been a tool, too, BTW; is he a LMD?]
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    There's a story that, while filming the first Superman movie, Richard Donner (or was it one of the producers?) stuck up signs everywhere, with one word:
    Verisimilitude.

    I think that's what we need in these stories; not realism, because that's just boring, but at least the feeling that people are reacting in ways that make sense. And not self-contradictory.

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    Vera Similitude? I think she was my biology teacher 20-some years ago! lol.

    at least the feeling that people are reacting in ways that make sense. And not self-contradictory
    That i can agree with. We may have to suspend disbelief in order to swallow the worlds we catapult ourselves into when we open the covers of our favourite comics, but that doesn't mean that what goes on there should contradict what has gone on before, nor should it change what has already happened without a darn good reason and a lot of thought before doing so! If you can't write your story without altering what somebody else has already written, then write something else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    If you can't write your story without altering what somebody else has already written, then write something else!
    It's also a sign of laziness; I'm often reminded of the saying 'a poor craftsman blames his tools'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07 View Post
    Vera Similitude? I think she was my biology teacher 20-some years ago! lol.



    That i can agree with. We may have to suspend disbelief in order to swallow the worlds we catapult ourselves into when we open the covers of our favourite comics, but that doesn't mean that what goes on there should contradict what has gone on before, nor should it change what has already happened without a darn good reason and a lot of thought before doing so! [I couldn't agree more. G/A-F] If you can't write your story without altering what somebody else has already written, then write something else!
    I resemble that last remark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    I resemble that last remark.
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    Man, I finally got some issues of the Maxi awhile back, around the time it ended, and I am disappointed. Even though it finished as originally planned, the ending seemed so rushed and full of loose ends. And Vindicator's fall from grace just to make Mac Hudson the hero and leader of Alpha Flight again leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Are we not allowed to have strong female leaders in comics? Sorry, but Guardian sucks. He always sucked. Byrne designed him for the express purpose of being a self righteous naive fool who gets himself killed so that Heather becomes Vindicator. Screw this story arch. Well, ok, don't know if Byrne meant for Mac to be that hate-worthy, but really, we were better off without another super genius lead male who always thinks he's right about everything. My faith in Marvel's writers is not restored. Though there were some decent moments in the new book, and great art, the main plot and it's resolution just ruins it for me. Don't know if I'm going to bother getting the rest of the issues I missed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EccentricSage View Post
    Man, I finally got some issues of the Maxi awhile back, around the time it ended, and I am disappointed. Even though it finished as originally planned, the ending seemed so rushed and full of loose ends. And Vindicator's fall from grace just to make Mac Hudson the hero and leader of Alpha Flight again leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Are we not allowed to have strong female leaders in comics? Sorry, but Guardian sucks. He always sucked. Byrne designed him for the express purpose of being a self righteous naive fool who gets himself killed so that Heather becomes Vindicator. Screw this story arch. Well, ok, don't know if Byrne meant for Mac to be that hate-worthy, but really, we were better off without another super genius lead male who always thinks he's right about everything. My faith in Marvel's writers is not restored. Though there were some decent moments in the new book, and great art, the main plot and it's resolution just ruins it for me. Don't know if I'm going to bother getting the rest of the issues I missed.
    Nice to have you back, ES! I see my quote is still hanging around, lol.
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    What can I say, it's about the only thing that remains true in all the Marvel universe. lol I wish I'd realized the site was back, sooner. I hate marvel, but you guys are alright.
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