Pencil Practice Proposal.

[EccentricSage]

Ok, I'd like to test my ability to pencil a comic book.

What I would like is for someone here to pick an issue of Alpha Flight that you found the art disappointing in, and script it for me. (Extra points if Kyle is in it, of course. lol)

I always thought some of the art in certain runs was just downright unfortunate, so I figure it would be great to challenge myself and hopefully re-create an issue of Alpha Flight better than it was before.

Is anyone up for this?

[Le Messor]

I tried that once with #75. Didn't get very far...

I'd like to see it done better, but seriously don't have the time to re-script it.

- Le Messor
"I'd love to, but I'm trying to see how long I can go without saying yes."

[EccentricSage]

Lann the Sorcerer story arc? Yeah, that stands out in my mind as one of the biggest low points art-wise, too. I don't know if the writing can be saved though.

[EccentricSage]

Well, now that I think about it, maybe the writing wouldn't seem so bad to me if the art weren't so ridiculous.


Now that I'm leafing through the books, I'm realizing that Michael Bair is even worse than John Calimee. And where the hell do they get these terrible inkers and colorists? They almost give the last run or two of X-Factor a run for their money. Almost. XD So many random blue walls and purple floors and stuff. lol

[Le Messor]

Well, now that I think about it, maybe the writing wouldn't seem so bad to me if the art weren't so ridiculous.

That's why I chose that issue - I liked it so much I read it, like, three times in a couple of days - and I was no fan of the art.

- Le Messor
"NyQuil, the stuffy, sneezy, why-the-heck-is-the-room-spinning medicine."

[DIGGER]

Well, now that I think about it, maybe the writing wouldn't seem so bad to me if the art weren't so ridiculous.


Now that I'm leafing through the books, I'm realizing that Michael Bair is even worse than John Calimee. And where the hell do they get these terrible inkers and colorists? They almost give the last run or two of X-Factor a run for their money. Almost. XD So many random blue walls and purple floors and stuff. lol

C'mon where else can you see a heroes individual toes in their costume other then from Bair? BTW one of my other fav artists is David Ross (sans Talaoc inks). I was so excited when he came on because I had seen his work on a Star Trek annual and I also seem to remember that he is Canadian. Best of luck on your redo. I have been working on one that I came up with as a way to resurrect Alpha (that is before Chaos War came out).



DIGGER

[EccentricSage]

I looked him up for different examples, and I'll give it to Bair that he's great at sexy pin up art. But I hate his work in Alpha Flight. The page layouts just look so wonky to me, as do some of the faces, though the faces might be partially the work of this terrible inker. In all fairness, I know bad inkers alone can ruin the art. But I just see issues like too much talking heads, the use of too many tiny panels on a single page to express an action sequence that could have been done in fewer panels with more dynamic art, and then there's the 'are those the characters viewed from the top of a building or ants' type panels, complete with the itsy bitsy depictions of the characters doing wonky poses... And characters' heights keep changing around, too. Just looks real sloppy... maybe he got better later in his career? Also, I never liked the idea of super heroes just wearing leotards. God forbid one of them step on something sharp in battle. lol So if I see toes through fabric, it bugs me. XD

Thank you for your well wishes, though. I don't mean to bash an artist you like but, like I said, maybe the early part of his run on Alpha was just rough?

[Le Messor]

Bair's work on Catwoman: Her Sister's Keeper was excellent.

- Le Messor
"Can you describe the individual?
He was about medium height and had a beard.
Was this a male, or a female?"
~ alleged real court transcript.

[Flightpath07]

the use of too many tiny panels on a single page to express an action sequence that could have been done in fewer panels with more dynamic art

As Dale Eaglesham's better half recently pointed out to me, the artist has no control over the amount or size of panels per page, he has to go by what the writer tells him to do on the page.

[Alpha Rider]

As Dale Eaglesham's better half recently pointed out to me, the artist has no control over the amount or size of panels per page, he has to go by what the writer tells him to do on the page.

It also depends on the writter. There are some writters who give alot of freedom to the artist.

[Flightpath07]

Aw, FlightPath, I could hug you for caring enough to listen and re-post that info!

You should really pass this on to my ex-wives, who say I never listen. At least, I think that is what they said. (I know their mouths were movin', but...)

[Alpha Rider]

You should really pass this on to my ex-wives, who say I never listen. At least, I think that is what they said. (I know their mouths were movin', but...)

You only listen to when it comes to AF. I know, I have a similar problom.

[Le Messor]

You only listen to when it comes to AF. I know, I have a similar problom.

Why, yes, Rider. I would like you to make me an omelette.
Thank you.

I don't know of any who still work with plots. The only exception I've seen in the past 10 to 15 years is Stan Lee...

Makes sense, since he was one of the people who invented that system.
(Right?)

- Le Messor
"Do you engage in motorcycling, hunting or any other pastimes of a hazardous nature?"
"I Watch the Lottery Show and listen to Terry Wogan."

[Alpha Rider]

What would you like in your omelette?

[Flightpath07]

What would you like in your omelette?

Sasquatch, Snowbird, and Puck. Hey, I'm not joking; I'm Deadly Ernest.