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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I dunno... with Volume 3 I can see what he's saying. Although y'know just competant writing, ala Chaos War & this Volume so far, rather than a killing spree would have worked too.
    There was nothing about v.3 so messed up that it inherently required a complete deck-clearing exercise of the original team, though. Killing off the team did nothing to correct the continuity headache of Marvel Has Two Alpha Flights -- Bendis intended it to be the real Flight that was killed and no one cared about the spares. All it accomplished was to give Wolverine three panels of angst (and that's counting the Dark Avengers/X-Men crossover), tick off a lot of Alpha Flight fans (and all seven fans of Puck II and Major Maple Leaf II), and still necessitated someone else cleaning up Lobdell's loose ends. And even after all of that, it's not like Chaos War or v.4 took pains to address the issue. All that was needed to solve the problem was pretty much the handwave that was given: the real team came back from space, the xeroxes are no more, let us never speak of this again. Not nuking the team would have meant we wouldn't have needed the Chaos War one-shot to undo Bendis' (and Fraction's, to be fair) killing spree among the Flight, and that Pak and Van Lente wouldn't have to fish Puck out of Hell, while not killing off the team would have presented very few roadblocks as to their portrayal in v.4 -- even without Heather and Mac dying, given their history up to this point, making a case for them as unfit parents/an unstable home environment wouldn't have been difficult, Marinna would still have 1001 reasons to be messed up after being cracked out of a test tube, etc.

    TL;DR: Killing off the team solved none of the existing complications associated with Alpha Flight, it just presented a really big new one.
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    To be honest, the reason Bendis killed off AF was to give his buddy, Oeming, cart blanche to put whatever roster he wanted to in Omega Flight.
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    Alpha Flight just can't be Canada's top superheroes. From 'The Province'
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    Driftwood: Well, I got about a foot and a half. Now, it says, uh, "The party of the second part shall be known in this contract as the party of the second part."
    Fiorello: Well, I don't know about that...
    Driftwood: Now what's the matter?
    Fiorello: I no like-a the second party, either.
    Driftwood: Well, you should've come to the first party. We didn't get home 'til around four in the morning... I was blind for three days!

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    i read that one too phil, and i was going to link it, but it just seemed like they were trying to outwit one another rather than give a actual review.

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    I don't know whether to laugh or headdesk over their criticisms of the artist's research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suzene View Post
    I don't know whether to laugh or headdesk over their criticisms of the artist's research.
    Same here, Suzene! I saw that one and thought they were really unprofessional. Dale actually called him out on it on Twitter, saying that the script called specifically for the area around the Harbour Centre Lookout. It's not "all glass" around there! It's, well, exactly the way Dale showed it.

    GARR, these people make me angry sometimes. The whole section on Vancouver (including the other comment that "Eaglesham does what most comic artists do: draw Generic Stand-In City for whatever city that writer's decided to set the story in.") should have been removed from the review once he was corrected publicly. Leaving it in just spreads lies to people who don't know any better. Besides, Dale always does thorough research on the locations being used, with Google Earth and Street View, etc. AND he does this even though he has 8 issues to draw in 8 months! You would think people would appreciate that kind of dedication and attention to detail.

    What strikes me most is just how hard so-called "reviewers" try to dig for things to pick on, rather than giving props for the strong elements. It's so rare to see an educated review that doesn't come off as a bunch of fan-boys (no offense intended, we love our geeks!) trying to feel important by tearing people down.

    Okay, I'm done now...
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    Oh, they're idiots anyway...They don't even know who Cody's "poster boy" was that the book was referring to (believing it could be Puck), did they not even really read the issue?...The person in question was revealed at the end....And they think that Box is controlling Cody....LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

    The comments about Vancouver being inaccurate are just stupid...I even recognized the building Attuma smashes as a Vancouver building (and I'm not Canadian, not have I visited Vancouver)...Harbour Centre, as Wolfie points out.

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    Here's the building...I've been seeing pictures of it for years...

    http://www.1st-vancouver.com/images/...iseship_lg.jpg
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    The tower actually has a pretty cool website where you can get a 360-degree view. Nifty! http://www.vancouverlookout.com/
    I never said I was objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suzene View Post
    Glad he liked the book, but I really could not disagree with that first paragraph more.
    I couldn't disagree with his spelling of 'Marianna' more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Same here, Suzene! I saw that one and thought they were really unprofessional.
    I'm noticing that we're saying anybody who disses the issues are unprofessional or bad reviewers...

    Also, the 'generic city' art... worst I've ever seen was in a JLI annual. They showed my home city (Canberra), which in real life looks nothing like Generic City (that's on the west coast). The Simpsons got it more right!

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