I miss Alpha Flight

[MistressMerr]

She-Hulk currently has no series in the works, and Spider-Girl got cancelled and is currently being shunted around various Spider-Man anthology books. Books that don't sell get cancelled, and Marvel's pretty darn good about giving them lots of chances. AF hasn't sold well in a very, very long time. As much as I love them, they probably wouldn't now, either.

(That's not to say I don't think it'd kill them to come out with a AF or OF miniseries, because seriously. The last one DID do well enough to warrant THAT much.)

[Speedy92286]

Yeah, Omega Flight was the best time to relaunch Alpha Flight. Fans were interested in the concept, as is proved by the sales, so why not release a ongoing after and see how it does? I am assuming Marvel thought that Omega Flight would flop, thus bringing it from an ongoing to a mini, and then just forgetting about it even though it was successful. Well played, Marvel.

Anyway, what did happen to the creative team of Omega Flight? I guess I forgot, but why didn't they push for Omega Flight to be an ongoing after they found out that many people would actually buy it?

[mreeez]

Anyway, what did happen to the creative team of Omega Flight? I guess I forgot, but why didn't they push for Omega Flight to be an ongoing after they found out that many people would actually buy it?

Kolins, shortly after OF ended, signed with DC.

Oeming, if I remember correctly, was going through a rough patch around that time too with OF getting cut and some stuff in his personal life. He's doing good work now on Mice Templar and some stuff with his new bride, Taki Soma, called Rapture as well as his work on Powers.

[Mokole]

mreez nailed it. Kolins was very happy to get to draw Omega Flight, but Brevoort wanted him to use his old 'liny' style, not his improved style, and then Quesada told him the book was cancelled down to a mini AFTER he'd drawn the first two issues! No wonder DC signed him, they weren't stupid like Marvel and did right.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Sigh...No Alpha Flight series, but they're giving Quasar another book???!!

http://marvel.com/boards/viewtopic.p...5f2ef24432f454

Not to mention...There's a new series about the S.W.O.R.D. organization (booooooooooring)...Do they really think they can make that sad M.I.B. rip-off interesting?

Looking at what else is coming out...
Moon Knight's getting another go...Luke Cage too? Brother Voodoo??!! Models Inc (about Millie the Model and crew...Doesn't Marvel realize there was once a TV series called this?)??!!

AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGHHHH!!!

[cmdrkoenig67]

You know who and what I miss most?....

Heather(whether she's leader, in the suit or not or whether she's the supportive wife of the leader....She makes/made a really good leader, though)...

Puck (as a real little person and acrobat)...He was such a fun and interesting character as John Byrne created him.

The familial ties between Mac, Heather and Logan...Heather and Elizabeth/Talisman...Michael/Shaman, Elizabeth/Talisman and Narya/Snowbird...And the interactions/familial exchanges between Walter/Sasquatch, Jeanne Marie/Aurora and Jean Paul/Northstar.

The original team (including Heather) all wre written to be closely connected in some way (by Byrne), whether by blood, love or close friendship (except for Puck and Marrina, in the beginning)...Puck later grew to love Heather, though.

The Great Beasts...Nuff said.

Caliber....Yes, you heard me...CALIBER!

I also thought it was cool that former members of their own organization (the then-defunct Dept H) were turned against them to form the original Omega Flight. I miss the original Omega Flight....The Master's version was kind of sucky IMHO.

Wild Child as a villain.

I miss Delphine Courtney/Robot MX39147....What a deliciously evil robot she was...Fooling the Alphans into believing she was Mac still alive...Maybe she even lied about Jerry Jaxon being dead? Who knows?

The Master of The World...


.....Sigh....

Dana

[maniac mike]

Caliber....Yes, you heard me...CALIBER!

I second that!!! =D>

[Flightpath07]

Dana,

I agree with you on everything, except Wild Child as a villain. Nobody in comics deserved a fighting chance to be a hero, more than Kyle.

[cmdrkoenig67]

Dana,

I agree with you on everything, except Wild Child as a villain. Nobody in comics deserved a fighting chance to be a hero, more than Kyle.

It's just the way I feel, FP (no offense is intended)....I liked the character, but I really think he made such a nasty, creepy evil villain in most of Alpha Flight Volume 1.

I liked him as a villain with that nasty evil streak he had. I understand the redemption aspect of his story, when he became Weapon Omega and had been put on a drug-therapy to keep his animal urges in check....But I don't get how he went from that man to the man he became, working for Romulus (he appeared to be absolutely and totally evil again)...He wasn't that evil working for Weapon X...He was more like a trained dog afraid of his owners/trainers (his WX superiors)...With moments of humanity (like his affection for Aurora, hurt feelings at her rejection, etc...)

I do hate the way Marvel has had him constantly flip-flop from evil to good, to lapdog, to really evil, etc...I also hate his insanely screwed-up history...He's first revealed to be a run-away from his family (because he was a mutant or something like that), who was altered even more by the Secret Empire...Wolverine even mentions that he's just like his father or that he had hoped he wouldn't turn out to be like his father (whoever that was supposed to be...Sabretooth?)...

Then Jeff Loeb gets a hold of him and now he's a former Nazi soldier?! WTF?! I wonder if his parents (if they're still alive out there somewhere) know he was a former Nazi...And just how old are these parents he ran away from supposed to be anyway?

Truthfully, the character is as messed up as Puck, as Mac (I think Sasquatch comes in third).

Dana

[cmdrkoenig67]

BTW....The thread I created at Newsarama is still there...Get over there and start supporting our favorite Canadian superheroes people....

http://www.newsarama.com/common/foru...=9258&start=20

It would be nice if more than just three of us from here were voicing their concerns and wishes to see AF again...How many members do we have here?

Dana

[Flightpath07]

I agree, Kyle is screwed up. Most of that happened after AF Vol 1 ended, though. I tend to just stick my fingers in my ears and sing loudly and try to ignore how every writer since then screws up Alpha Flight members.

[rplass]

BTW....The thread I created at Newsarama is still there...Get over there and start supporting our favorite Canadian superheroes people....

http://www.newsarama.com/common/foru...=9258&start=20

It would be nice if more than just three of us from here were voicing their concerns and wishes to see AF again...How many members do we have here?

Dana

Yeah, I can't register on that site. I keep getting an error message, something about CAPTCHA, I have no idea what that is. How do you register on that site? I'll join up and post all day long there if it would let me register.

rplass

EDIT: Ah, I was able to finally get in. Yay!

[cmdrkoenig67]

That's great rplass...I hope nobody thinks I'm being a jerk with my last post, but there just never seems to be enough of us supporting these threads on other boards.

I just want TPTB (and non AF fans, who may be intrigued enough to check out Alpha...Maybe even becoming fans themselves) to see there is a fanbase still out there.

Dana

BTW...Legerd's AF thread is still active at Marvel.com, EVERYBODY please stop by and post as much as you can...If enough of us keep those threads alive, perhaps it will do...Something...Anything.

http://marvel.com/boards/viewtopic.p...light=#4062320