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    i always love hearing these behind the scenes stories, seems like the new guardian was totally rich's pitch. btw, i emailed a writer over at marvel and he told me that marvel has plans for alpha in 2009 and if they fall through, he gets to run with his pitch.

    I had pitched an idea to, then editor, Andy Schmidt a few years back (in 2005) that he really loved. Months and months went by and nothing came of it. We'd touch base every few weeks and he'd tell me how much he and Tom Brevoort loved it but it just didn't "fit" right now in the Marvel U as it was. Ended up dragging on for a good two years without much progress...

    Long story short, a very similar title at Marvel came out last year to what I pitched them. When I saw it, it was like being punched in the stomach! I asked about it. Andy assured me that it was a coincidence and nothing more! But he admitted that he had not yet read the new title yet. He said he'd read it that weekend and call me on Monday. Monday rolled around and Andy called and said, "I see what you mean." Then he offered me a gig on MCP. Said he was going to call me that week anyway to offer me the job.


    I took it. With the understanding that I was still supposed to write the story I pitched a couple years prior (even though I saw no way of doing this) and that it could co-exist with this other title as an "offshoot" of sorts. So I plodded forward with an extremely tight deadline looming. I had to keep changing it a little here and there, of course, as it was "too close" to this other title now, until it pretty much became a watered down version of what I first intended it to be.

    With just weeks before issue #1 was to hit the stands Andy Schmidt then quit Marvel and John Barber took over as the editor on MCP. I was assured that nothing would change, however, with my gig on MCP. The next day John called and told me that my story "wouldn't work" and asked "what else I had"? And could I get them to him in 24 hours as the deadline for MCP #1 was coming quick! So I scrambled and threw him a handful of other ideas I had on the desktop.

    Next day he calls and says he likes a few of them but "Thor's sewn up" and "Cap's sewn up" and "the X-Men are sewn up." Then he asks me what I think of the new Guardian character? I was pretty exasperated/dumbfounded/confused/befuddled at this point, let me tell you (and that's the "G" version). He asked if I could throw him a pitch for the new Guardian and could I do that quick. The deadline and all. Looming.

    So I did. I worked through the night on it and sent it out. He liked it. We managed to make all the deadlines but it was very, very rough at the start. Tensions ran a bit high.


    By the time I was into the third or fourth installment things had settled in and I got into a comfortable groove. All things considered, I think I did a pretty darn good job on the run. It was just recently the only storyline from the twelve-issue run of MCP that was collected into a trade paperback. And re-reading it now I must admit to being very proud of the story.

    Like I said, "challenging."

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    Yeah, from what I understand, Marvel does have plans for Alpha in 2009. Also, it is expected that Marvel has finally learned their lesson about trying to change what the book should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven F
    Yeah, from what I understand, Marvel does have plans for Alpha in 2009. Also, it is expected that Marvel has finally learned their lesson about trying to change what the book should be.
    Oh please let them have learned, then I can stop haranguing them at Marvel.com.

    This news certainly gives me hope that this time we'll get Alpha Flight and not something that merely bears the name. Let's try to be positive and believe we'll get a good book this time.

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    i would love to hear these stories of how pitches changed and what was originally planned what is actually printed.

    version 3 and the omega flight mini would be very interesting to hear.

    i really wonder how the heck they are going to get the original flight back together, the team is a continuity nightmare.

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    btw, ben morse over at comic bloc, the writer i spoke with and another (can't remember off the top of my head) have all stated alpha plans in 2009, so keep your fingers crossed.

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    *Crosses finger, toes, kidneys and a few other things that shouldn't be mentioned in a PG setting*
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    Rereading it all makes me wonder what Rich K was going to write about in the first place (New Avengers? New New Warriors?). And now we know why Pointer was used and promoted by Marvel, sort of. Rich K sure got cornered, no wonder the first two MCP's seemed pointless, he had an idea of what he wanted the vampire to do but not how to pull it off, needed time to think and get his feet under him. Not easy, I know from minor experience with media.

    So three people, at least one being a writer, say AF is on for 2009, maybe late Spring I'm thinking.

    Sure hope we get some concrete news soon about this!
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    I'm wondering if Marvel will do a re-creation of the original team with Pointer (Ugh!), Aurora, Northstar, Sasquatch, Snowbird and Talisman...Or close to that. I'll personally be disgusted if they continue with Pointer as Guardian...He really needs to be shipped back to Alaska (Just like Sarah Palin). "On your way out, don't let the Canadian border hit you where the good Lord split you, Michael."

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    Honestly it shouldnt be to hard to bring them back. Its comics anything can and will happen. If Superboy can punch reality and that brings people back to life than Marvel can do no worse in their plans. Just give us Phil Jimenez who loves Alpha and Fred VL and we can all have a happy new year. That creative team would rock so hard on Alpha I drool at the prospect.
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    My kidneys are crossed on this one, too.

    And, if it'll help, I will don the Guardian suit and fight for my country. Hell, why not? Take one for the team, and all that.
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    Why can't I shake the feeling that all this talk I'm reading about 'Let's hope Marvel has learned from history' only proves that we need to learn from history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Messor
    Why can't I shake the feeling that all this talk I'm reading about 'Let's hope Marvel has learned from history' only proves that we need to learn from history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trewqp
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Messor
    Why can't I shake the feeling that all this talk I'm reading about 'Let's hope Marvel has learned from history' only proves that we need to learn from history?

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    Ha! History is for people who want to change the future!
    And people who want to change the future are so lame!
    So...Kang The Conqueror is lame?
    oh, no, wait...Kang was form the future, trying to change the past...right?
    man oh man, Marvel is so confusing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    Quote Originally Posted by Trewqp
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Messor
    Why can't I shake the feeling that all this talk I'm reading about 'Let's hope Marvel has learned from history' only proves that we need to learn from history?

    </cynical>

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    And people who want to change the future are so lame!
    So...Kang The Conqueror is lame?
    oh, no, wait...Kang was form the future, trying to change the past...right?
    man oh man, Marvel is so confusing...
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