well, he wasn't truly dead, he wound up in box, then limbo, then a girl.
ugggghhhh.......
well, he wasn't truly dead, he wound up in box, then limbo, then a girl.
ugggghhhh.......
Um, I hate to say this, but I have to agree with Powersurge on this one: I think that's the dictionary definition of "convoluted"....Originally Posted by varo
Allan 'HappyCanuck' Crocker
"Hey... Philosophers love wisdom, not mankind."
- Stephen Pastis, Pearls Before Swine
Yes, but it's all Bill Mantlo's doing.
Dana
ALPHA FLIGHT IS RESURRECTED, LONG LIVE ALPHA FLIGHT!
I honestly can't be sure if you're being slightly ironic here;
you're describing a picture by John Byrne (he was the artist in question).
It was published as a Bullpen Bulletin, so I imagine we're talking about the same one.
- Le Messor
"Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder."
- Washington
Nope, not being ironic at all... unless liking Byrne's AF art better than his AF writing is somehow ironic.
"You just decided *all by yourselves* that you are the Earth's protectors. And that you, and *only* you, not your teammates or family, are trustworthy enough to include in the process..."
T'Challa, The New Avengers: Illuminati 1
I meant, I couldn't tell if you knew it was Byrne when you posted... but now I think you did. Then again, still going on vague impresssions.
- Le Messor
"Few people are successful unless a lot of other people want them to be."
- Charles Brower
Re: Marvel Adventures Iron Man# 11/Skrulls in Space/Vendetta
Well, Al-Fan and Allan are not the same person, that much I hope we all can agree on. GRJThey may speak for themselves at some other point, but I'm pretty sure Al-Fan and Allan are two different people.Let's be clear about this, Allan.
And...
Oh, come on! That's so not true!
I mean, 'hidden'? ...
- Le Messor
"Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil, but heaven protect us from the evil men do in the name of good."
In my small Webster's pocket dictionary, "bash" means "to hit (sth) hard." Most of the time, this is (to me) a good thing; in relation to Alpha Flight, it's almost necessary. When the most recent use of "Alpha Flight" is to bump them off without a fight in the pages of New Avengers # 16, bashing is actually required....IMO.
I agree that a well-told story is (or should be) the ultimate goal. A well-told story is a good combination of art and words that has a beginning, middle, and end. As I've said before, I think a lot of people have told some good stories with Alpha Flight characters, including John Byrne. However, I have not (and probably never will) change my opinion about the Mantlo run: it destroyed the team and the comic book so badly that it may not be able to be repaired/restored. It has not been repaired/restored so far, and unless Fred Van Lente is allowed to do it, I don't see who currently working within Marvel would be willing or able to. [A "Skrull-fix" is going to about as ludicrous as anything else that anyone could come up with, at this point.]
I think we all want well-told stories with Alpha Flight characters. I think most of us would agree that Marvel has been spotty, at best, at giving the readers/fans what they want. This is about the harshest "bashing" that anyone's given, and it's the harshest bashing that tptb deserve.
Once upon a time, they exploded from the pages of The X-Men. For a moment, they were "Canada's answer to The Avengers."
They were ALPHA FLIGHT....
...once upon a time.
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Written by MATT FRACTION
Art by DOUG BRAITHWAITE
Cover by GABRIELE DELL'OTTO
The Skrulls are coming for Asgard, and they've got the gods in their sights! But it's not just the pantheon who stand to suffer the repercussions of the aliens' secret invasion -- the citizens of small-town Broxton, Oklahoma are about to become collateral damage in the attack…and the God of Thunder must defend two cites at once! For a job this big, Thor will have to turn to one of his oldest and closest allies…Beta Ray Bill!
32 PGS./Rated T+ …$2.99
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Bill's back
Re: Marvel Adventures Iron Man# 11/Skrulls in Space/Vendetta
Whoops! Apologies, Garry (and to Allan)...I don't know how I did that...I know you and Allan (Happy Canuck) are two different folks.
Dana
Well, Al-Fan and Allan are not the same person, that much I hope we all can agree on. GRJ
In my small Webster's pocket dictionary, "bash" means "to hit (sth) hard." Most of the time, this is (to me) a good thing; in relation to Alpha Flight, it's almost necessary. When the most recent use of "Alpha Flight" is to bump them off without a fight in the pages of New Avengers # 16, bashing is actually required....IMO.
I agree that a well-told story is (or should be) the ultimate goal. A well-told story is a good combination of art and words that has a beginning, middle, and end. As I've said before, I think a lot of people have told some good stories with Alpha Flight characters, including John Byrne. However, I have not (and probably never will) change my opinion about the Mantlo run: it destroyed the team and the comic book so badly that it may not be able to be repaired/restored. It has not been repaired/restored so far, and unless Fred Van Lente is allowed to do it, I don't see who currently working within Marvel would be willing or able to. [A "Skrull-fix" is going to about as ludicrous as anything else that anyone could come up with, at this point.]
I think we all want well-told stories with Alpha Flight characters. I think most of us would agree that Marvel has been spotty, at best, at giving the readers/fans what they want. This is about the harshest "bashing" that anyone's given, and it's the harshest bashing that tptb deserve.
ALPHA FLIGHT IS RESURRECTED, LONG LIVE ALPHA FLIGHT!
No offence to Garry, but I sure HOPE we're separate people!! I've been calling myself 'Allan' for the last 28 1/2 years! Be quite confusing if I started calling myself something else!!
It's okay, Dana. Just glad not to be pulled into this accidentally!
Allan 'HappyCanuck' Crocker
"Hey... Philosophers love wisdom, not mankind."
- Stephen Pastis, Pearls Before Swine
...And so it begins...
Dana
ALPHA FLIGHT IS RESURRECTED, LONG LIVE ALPHA FLIGHT!
You'll keep slipping up in your mind for the rest of your life, and occasionally marvel at your new name, but eventually, it'll be part of you. You'll even begin to forget the original.
It's other people you have to worry about. Some will refuse to use your new name 'til it's official. Some will refuse to use it at all.
Then others will hear your original, and wonder what that's all about?
They'll get used to it, though, in the end.
(Family are the worst!)
- Le Messor
"It's like a new pair of underwear. At first, it's restrictive and confining, but eventually it becomes a part of you... excuse me."
- Garth Elgar
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