Ultimate Alpha Flight

[HappyCanuck]

I'm in full agreement with Flightpath.

AFAIC...Marvel is still on their "make Alpha Flight a joke (or in this case...Junkies, American ones, at that)" kick. Trash is for throwing away, not buying and reading.

Dana

Love the little writing, Dana! Excellent!

Well...It just sums up how I feel about the portrayal of "Ultimate" Alpha Flight in "Ultimate" X-Men....This book and these characters do nothing to make Alpha Flight look good (or even the X-Men, for that matter).

Dana

I have to agree. I'm not following ANY of the "Ultimate" titles because they are just too bad, not worth my money. They take a good concept and twist it any way they can.

[Trewqp]

i dont read any ultimates, i agree with they are so horrible and a waste of money, take for instance nick fury, that series is the dumbest thing ever.

[Le Messor]

Trash is for throwing away, not buying and reading.

Love the little writing, Dana! Excellent!

Well...It just sums up how I feel about the portrayal of "Ultimate" Alpha Flight in "Ultimate" X-Men....This book and these characters do nothing to make Alpha Flight look good (or even the X-Men, for that matter).

Well, they trash the X-Men. Against 25-5 odds (Which works out to five to one. One to five. No-one here gets out alive.)

I've got the issues. The team in the book looks like the team we know.
That's about it.
They're different people, different motivations, etc...
But that's Ultimate for you.

Yeah, whatever. If there's an Ultimate AF series, I won't be buying it.

Btw; 'ultimate' also means 'last'. What can we draw from that?

- Le Messor
"Everything you say is boring and incomprehensible," she said, "but that alone doesn't make it true."
- Kafka

[Trewqp]

well i mean id buy the ultimate alpha flight if theyd make it, because its them

[Le Messor]

Which is odd, because I wouldn't buy it because it isn't them.

(Trewqp, you haven't been around long enough to hear me rant about it, but to me the words 'Flight' and 'Alpha' (or any other Greek letter) in combination do not, on their own, make my favourite superteam.)

- Le Messor
"Everything you've learned in school as "obvious" becomes less and less obvious as you begin to study the universe. For example, there are no solids in the universe. There's not even a suggestion of a solid. There are no absolute continuums. There are no surfaces. There are no straight lines."
- R. Buckminster Fuller

[Trewqp]

so you mean that the new alpha flight dosent act like the old vol.1 alpha flight? well i dont know how the old ones act, because im a new fan of the series, but what makes them so much diffrent?

[Legerd]

so you mean that the new alpha flight dosent act like the old vol.1 alpha flight? well i dont know how the old ones act, because im a new fan of the series, but what makes them so much diffrent?

They aren't the same characters from AF vol. 1. Most of them aren't even Canadian! While other Ultimate characters (the X-men, the Avengers for example) are just different takes on the same characters (Wolverine is still Logan only with a slightly different past) all but one of the Ultimate Alpha Flight are people who have never been in Alpha Flight! Apparently, the original AF isn't good enough to be turned into Ultimates.

[Trewqp]

o i see, i still havent had a chance to pick up the issue yet
but marvel dosent make sense... how can they use the americans in their canadian team?
did marvel say anything?

[Le Messor]

Trewqp,

1) Most of Omega Flight, including their Guardian, weren't Canadian, and they're the 616 version.

2) Did you know you've been moved to Afghanistan? Apparently with all of Tampa? (You're not the first person this has happened to, btw.)

- Le Messor
"Evil will always triumph over good, because good is DUMB."
- Dark Helmet

[Flightpath07]

Trewqp,

I hate to sound the wake-up call, but i have yet to see that anybody high up in Marvel gives a hoot what any of us think of what they do to Alpha Flight.

We don't matter to them, we are just an annoyance (but "we", i mean us fans of Alpha Flight).

So, my advice to you is this....enjoy whatever Alpha Flight appearances you can, hope for the best, but expect nothing, or at least nothing good, to come out of Marvel that has to do with Alpha Flight.

Until my (Canadian) bacon walks out of my refrigerator, opens a window, and flies off under its own power..."Make mine anybody-but-Marvel!"

[Trewqp]

so this whole website, and fight for the flight, and these fourms didnt even make marvel take a notice at us?
well hopefully they do give us something... hopefully
o and has marvel ever responded to one of ur guy's email's for the fight for the flight?
i still havent recived a email from them.

[Flightpath07]

so this whole website, and fight for the flight, and these fourms didnt even make marvel take a notice at us?
well hopefully they do give us something... hopefully
o and has marvel ever responded to one of ur guy's email's for the fight for the flight?
i still havent recived a email from them.

Might wanna ask Ben about that one, or one of the more experienced people here.
usually though, for the most part, they seem to blow us off more than anything.
of course, there are some writers and artists (Reber!) who have been really kind to us here, dropping by and spending time chatting with us, the humble fans.
but, the higher-ups, the muckety-mucks, the big chiefs at Marvel? I'd have to say, no, they don't particularly like us. That's MHO, anyways.

[Trewqp]

wow, i didnt think marvel did that... you'd think that they'd try to keep fans and do things for the fans.
well, that reminds me of a comment when i was reading about the iredeemable ant-man that a guy said to te fans that you have to remeber that this is a business.
well this sucks...

[Legerd]

wow, i didnt think marvel did that... you'd think that they'd try to keep fans and do things for the fans.
well, that reminds me of a comment when i was reading about the iredeemable ant-man that a guy said to te fans that you have to remeber that this is a business.
well this sucks...

Yeah, I always find it odd when they say "it's a business", then completely ignore what their customers ask for. If they want an AF book to sell then they need to do a better job all around with it. Put together a good creative team, promote the book positively, write the characters as heroes (not villains or losers or jokes) and include them in big events beyond just being extras who get taken out to show how powerful the bad guy is.

[Flightpath07]

Trewqp, any chance that you are Joe Q incognito, sent to spy on us?
lol