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    What I also really don't understand is that most (but not all) of the "big/popular/hot" writers working today in comics are comic fans themselves. Having grown up loving comics and the very heroes they are writing....But (and this is a big but) they are writing the characters so differently from the characters they grew up loving....Why? That in itself makes no sense to me, whatsoever. Do they somehow think they can do better than the creators they worshiped (warping these characters to fit their own wants/needs)?

    Example: Brian Michael Bendis himself claims to be a huge fan of the original Spider-Woman (I count myself as a big fan of the character too)...Yet he is writing her so out of character and off-model, it's positively mind-boggling. He's even written a miniseries to possibly rewrite her origin, removing key elements (her possible connections to Chthon) and key Marvel characters (the High Evolutionary and the cow-woman Bova) from her past in an attempt to make her more of a super spy, than the woman mostly known as having been created of both science and sorcery.

    The original Spider-Woman was mostly known as the weird-ish, former Hydra super-assassin turned super-heroine, who creeped most people out and fought some of the freakiest villains around. Bendis has made her more of an untrustworthy triple agent, who continually stabs friends in the back...He even had her sell-out to Hydra, the organization she hates most just to get her powers back (yet she's had her powers back for years now...since long before he got into writing comics...She was just retired from costumed crime-fighting)...Ugh!

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    We know Wild Child is still with Romulus as we saw him not to long ago
    King Mungi (or others)...
    Who is Romulus, and what is Kyle's relationship to him? Do we yet know how Kyle got his powers back? Where the heck is all this unfolding, in what series?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    We know Wild Child is still with Romulus as we saw him not to long ago
    King Mungi (or others)...
    Who is Romulus, and what is Kyle's relationship to him? Do we yet know how Kyle got his powers back? Where the heck is all this unfolding, in what series?
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    Romulus is a very ancient person who understands genetics 10 fold. He is from Wolverine's past. Sabertooth is afraid of him cuz what he can do. He calls Sinister and Xavier fools. If Kyle is serving Romulus, its bad news for Kyle since Logan doesnt like him anyways(Kyle that is)

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    So...is Romulus tied in somehow to the High Evolutionary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flightpath07
    So...is Romulus tied in somehow to the High Evolutionary?
    Unknown at this point, and it's also unknown how he gave Kyle back his powers as he could only make Thorn and Feral look like their bestial apperance, but didn't actually bring their powers back.

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    Ah. Thanks for the link, KM.
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    Here's my fix:
    Volume 3 was mostly dreams by Sasquatch, fostered, of course, by the Dreamqueen and an actual mission to space by the other emembers. Based on his dreams, he found a real Puck 2 and MML Jr. Unfortunately, they died as trainees by the collective, along with Skrulls posing as Puck, Shaman, Heather and Mac.

    No temporal copies, no casualties, no Volume 3 save references to Sasquatch's weird dreams after eating Sushi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kozzi24
    Here's my fix:
    Volume 3 was mostly dreams by Sasquatch, fostered, of course, by the Dreamqueen and an actual mission to space by the other emembers. Based on his dreams, he found a real Puck 2 and MML Jr. Unfortunately, they died as trainees by the collective, along with Skrulls posing as Puck, Shaman, Heather and Mac.

    No temporal copies, no casualties, no Volume 3 save references to Sasquatch's weird dreams after eating Sushi.
    Seconded!

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    I'll third, fourth, fifth whatever the sentiments here. Obviously as fans of the original Alpha Flight, we're all biased as hell, but the points about what's being done to ALL the characters in the Marvel universe can't be ignored, and Alpha was apparently just another (somewhat) recent casualty of those symptoms. I think Manikin (our Manikin) said it best:

    It is my belief that Volume 3 AF was what killed AF. Written by someone who doesn't take the team seriously. It ends like a damn sitcom and breaks the fourth wall in a stupifying manner...Temporal copies.
    Writers with their own agendas (i.e. furthering their careers, making a quick buck, etc.) ruin classics all the time. But ultimately it was Marvel themselves who pulled the plug...kind of a slap to Canada if you think about it, esp. with non-Canadian members comprising the latest half-hearted incarnation.

    Something should be done, but it will not be till there are enough "purists" with power and influence at Marvel, Inc. to set things right. Mean time, yeah, this sucks. I feel ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S. Michael Simms
    Writers with their own agendas (i.e. furthering their careers, making a quick buck, etc.) ruin classics all the time. But ultimately it was Marvel themselves who pulled the plug...kind of a slap to Canada if you think about it, esp. with non-Canadian members comprising the latest half-hearted incarnation.
    It isn't so much that I feel the writer had his own agenda, as much as I feel that the writer hated Alpha flight. That to him it was just homework he didn't want to do. So instead of doing a good job, he pushes the series further away from readers not residing in Canada. The creation of Yukon Jack, Major Maple Leaf, and Puck 2, were just unimaginative place holders meant to patronize Canadian readers. Such obviously, and ridiculously, Canadian names for characters with fairly mediocre powers made it clear he had no intention of staying with the series very long. I could just imagine him giggling childishly while writing. Almost as if he were writing something dirty on a bathroom wall.
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    Ok so if Mac, Heather, Judd, and Michael are dead why not just leave them that way?

    Hear me out...

    We would still have the twins, Walt, & Elizabeth. We have Pointer in the suit now as well so that covers that requirement.

    You can have it where Liz adopts Mac and Heather's baby and is raising it. Walt is still doing his stuff while the twins are now back living in the great white north and Pointer grows a backbone and joins the team as it's government liaison. Walt leads the team with guest appearances from time to time when right around issue 12 Jeffries and Lil pop back up. You then have the team face off against an old foe, reunite for good and start kicking ass.

    Someone get me Joe Q's phone number, I'm going to write this thing with Jim Lee doing the art.

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    Someone get me Joe Q's phone number, I'm going to write this thing with Jim Lee doing the art.
    Go for it. Sounds decent. Only thing is, I think Marvel already has their own plans for Pointer...growing a backbone may not be in their plans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kozzi24
    Here's my fix:
    Volume 3 was mostly dreams by Sasquatch, fostered, of course, by the Dreamqueen and an actual mission to space by the other emembers.
    Mine's similar, with two minor twists:
    First, I start with #28 (they got DQ's attention that far back, when they were trawling dimensions, even before they met her through Laura).

    Second, the events weren't dreams. They actually happened. But DQ altered the characters' perceptions, and even personalities, enough to distort them beyond recognition, and end up with... well, what we go.

    All in a plot to

    (fill in the blank yourself).

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    How about this:

    The voices rattling around in Weapon Omega's head are Alpha Flight's. Puck, Shaman, and James Hudson are resurrected. Whitman Knapp hasn't been sitting on his depowered butt, he understands quantum physics and uses it to gain new powers. Heather Hudson in Nemesis. Even Snowbird rejoins.
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