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    He makes a great hero, with all of his inner turmoil and struggle, along with his natural optimism, humor and loyalty. But, I agree that, as a villain, Kyle is usually shown as Lil' Sabretooth...And I hate Sabretooth. Even as a villain, even as a bald, wannabe Nosferatu I liked Kyle, he just has a loveable personality. I hope they don't rob him of that...
    When he's sane, he's noble, loyal, funny and incredibly sweet, even as a villain he keeps some of these qualities, like the way he cared so much for Aurora while in Weapon X, even though she treated him like dirt, he still loved her...
    "I can't believe this. I actually have a crush on a hologram! I don't know whether I should talk to a psychologist or an electrician!" Kyle, referring to Shard

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    I'm posting the whole review here as the link provided gives you 'Cable & Deadpool #39', The Boy Who Made Silence #1

    29 April 2007
    Wolverine #53

    WOLVERINE #53 - Evolution, part 4 of 6
    "Insomnia" by Jeph Loeb, Simone Bianchi and Andrea Silvestri

    X-MEN: FIRST CLASS #8 (of - "The Treasure Hunters"
    by Jeff Parker and Roger Cruz

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    It's another very quiet week - aside from the final issue of First
    Class, everything is in mid-storyline. But it's also a singularly dull
    week outside the X-books as well, to be honest. So, more by default
    than anything else, I've thrown in WOLVERINE #53. At least it's meant
    to be a major title.

    I haven't been greatly impressed by Jeph Loeb and Simone Bianchi's run
    on this title. Its strongest feature has been the art, which is
    undeniably beautiful. But while Bianchi knows how to produce a striking
    image, he's not so great at stringing them together. The panel-to-panel
    storytelling is hit and miss. When it hits, the book looks magnificent.
    When it misses, though, it misses by a mile, producing a clumsy jumble
    of confusingly arranged elements.

    Still, at least you get some lovely pictures from Simone Bianchi along
    the way. The story has much more fundamental problems. Jeph Loeb
    broadens his canvas here and attempts to explain not only the link
    between Wolverine and Sabretooth, but also the preponderance of mutants
    with vaguely animalistic powers. Loeb doesn't make a very convincing
    case for the latter point, in his choice of characters. Wolfsbane and
    Wild Child are fair enough. Thornn and Feral would be reasonable
    illustrations if it wasn't for the fact were cats, not wolves. Besides,
    they lost their powers on M-Day - and this being a comic edited by Axel
    Alonso, I have precisely zero faith that the continuity error is
    intentional. Sasquatch's inclusion on the list is just baffling, since
    his powers are magical. Or, if you prefer the original version, he had
    yet another accident with radiation. Either way, he's not a mutant.

    The angle here, ludicrous as it may seem, is that all these
    vaguely-related mutants somehow provide evidence of a parallel
    evolutionary strain through wolves. No, really. That's the idea.

    And Loeb doesn't exactly endear himself to me by having Wolverine
    immediately challenge the very concept of evolution. Now, I suppose to
    an extent you've got to expect this sort of thing when it comes to
    American pop culture. With the best will in the world, there are
    broadly three categories of people who don't believe in evolution these
    days: people with very strong religious beliefs, people from countries
    with dreadful education systems, and citizens of the United States of
    America. Wolverine, being a Canadian, is none of the above, and he's
    generally written as non-religious if not outright atheist. And if he
    seriously had fundamental doubts about this whole evolution thing, you'd
    have thought it would have come up during his thirty year membership in
    the frigging X-Men, given how fundamental it is to the whole mutant
    question. It's difficult to imagine a less appropriate person to raise
    the issue.

    Loeb also seems to be suggesting that Sabretooth's uncontrolled
    behaviour is the result of his being older, and that Wolverine will
    eventually deteriorate in the same way. Except we've had decades of
    character development with Wolverine going in exactly the opposite
    direction. This whole idea seems to be misreading the character on a
    fundamental level.

    Anyhow, let's leave that aside and consider the idea on its merits, such
    as they are. What Loeb seems to be proposing here is broadly a cross
    between two very bad ideas from the past. First, he's reviving the old
    "Wolverine is really an evolved wolverine" idea, which Marvel toyed with
    briefly in the mid-seventies before thinking better of it. Second, he's
    using the idea that mutants with similar powers form a sub-species.
    Well, that idea was stupid when Chuck Austen did it in "Dominant
    Species", and it hasn't improved with time.

    This being part four of six, of course, it's entirely possible that Loeb
    is merely teasing this idea, and plans to go somewhere else. But that
    wouldn't greatly improve this story (except in the sense that it would
    do less damage). Even on that charitable reading, it would still be a
    story that teased a dreadful idea, and had little else to offer.

    This is poor. So far, Loeb has done little to justify his star status.

    Rating: C-


    I hope the reviewer doesn't get to miffed by my posting the full review
    Del

    Driftwood: Well, I got about a foot and a half. Now, it says, uh, "The party of the second part shall be known in this contract as the party of the second part."
    Fiorello: Well, I don't know about that...
    Driftwood: Now what's the matter?
    Fiorello: I no like-a the second party, either.
    Driftwood: Well, you should've come to the first party. We didn't get home 'til around four in the morning... I was blind for three days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DelBubs
    With the best will in the world, there are
    broadly three categories of people who don't believe in evolution these
    days: people with very strong religious beliefs, people from countries
    with dreadful education systems, and citizens of the United States of
    America.
    As somebody who is definitely in the first category (okay, technically also the third)--LOL!

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    Driftwood: Well, I got about a foot and a half. Now, it says, uh, "The party of the second part shall be known in this contract as the party of the second part."
    Fiorello: Well, I don't know about that...
    Driftwood: Now what's the matter?
    Fiorello: I no like-a the second party, either.
    Driftwood: Well, you should've come to the first party. We didn't get home 'til around four in the morning... I was blind for three days!

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    Loeb's wolverine is among the DUMBEST books I've seen in my life. I wasn't a big Wolverine fan *BEFORE* his stupid animal people. Thankfully, after this Captain Jackass is gone, they'll retcon this out of existance. Because this is dumb. VERY VERY dumb.

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    For the premise to work, there would have to be two parallel species. They would not be able to produce offspring. And they would both have to be unaware of the wolf species.

    Why didn't Hank put himself on the list? He put every other furry mutant / Great Beast possessed Gamma-irradiated scientist there.

    Scott, talk to Loeb, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mungi
    Quote Originally Posted by Canucklehead
    Back to Wildchild form? Or still Nosferatu-looking?
    See for yourself...

    http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...rine_53_17.jpg

    He destroys Wolverine
    OMG!

    That's beautiful.

    - Damien

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    I have this theory that Loeb ended up using all of his creative magic on Heroes and so everything else he puts out is drained of any possibility of being good. So far Wolverine and Fallen Son confirms this for me.

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    I can only hope that Loeb is going somewhere opposite of where we think he's going with this, because if he is going for the wolf-people-evolution thing...I'll just puke. It was a supremely stupid idea in Universe X and it hasn't got any less stupid with time (more so, if Sasquatch is thrown in with every other animal mutant, like he was in UX).

    It won't make Wolverine more interesting as a character...He might as well just make Logan/James/whatever one of the High Evolutionary's New Men.

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    But remember:

    People will buy it, because its Wolverine! >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theta_Ray_Bill
    But remember:

    People will buy it, because its Wolverine! >.>
    Believe me...I know, Blech!

    Dana
    ALPHA FLIGHT IS RESURRECTED, LONG LIVE ALPHA FLIGHT!

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