If you were asking literally, it's mature "audiences".
If you were asking literally, it's mature "audiences".
i am so beyond pissed about this that i probally should stop typing.
first a off-panel death, then a promised ongoing with a awesome creative team is knocked back to a mini.
i really wonder who made this decision.
as much as i am looking forward to hearing from mike, i know there will be no silver lining, so now we get a 5 issue mini, then a swift boot back to limbo.
Hey you know what.... 5 books are better than none.
I'm back on board, bring on Omega.
thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. Boy, I don't know how to express myself.Originally Posted by Ottawa Renegade
Quand l'appétit va, tout va!
-Obélix
you know what scares me about the timing of this. either mike has another project he is jumping on, and they don't want to change creative teams this early, so make it a mini.........
or......
they recieved issue 1, didn't like it, then knocked it down to a mini.
If Oeming and Kolins jump on another series I will be annoyed.
If Oeming and Kolins jump on another series, it would be so that they could make a living. They have to play the cards that have been dealt by the company that they work for.
neither are under exclusive marvel contracts.
No I wouldn't be made at them, but the executives for "giving" them their new jobs as they have the final say.
Excellent. Let's get DC to hire them to create a Canadian superhero team.
It's okay Syvalois. It's a good thing I'm not on a french board, because then my dialogue would be like 'Hello. Good bye. I can't understand a word that you're saying.'
So you're far ahead of me in that, no worries.
Ben, where are you? I wanna know what's going on...
I seriously want the Walter stuffed animal from AF #106. Seriously.
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I doubt anything is clear to Mr. Oeming yet. I doubt they have offered him and Mr. Kolins another title already. They asked to do Alpha Flight, they asked to do Omega Flight, they got what they wanted and then Quesada pulled the rug out from under them for no good reason. Sorry, but there is no good reason for the shortcutting. Neither Oeming nor Kolins is dying or sick, neither has asked to kill the book. Quesada made the obtuse call, he has to explain himself and try and pass off that it's either:
a) a trial run, if it sells well it will become an ongoing again, he got cold feet (A crock, but a crock he uses often)
b) a decision made to see interest but no plans for an ongoing, he never said it was an ongoing, he never 'lied'
c) a late decision due to some stupid-butt lie about some stupid-butt idea.
Bendis said great things, Millar said great things, Quesada said we'd be thrilled, Brevoort said it was ongoing, Schmidt said it would be great, Oeming and Kolins were pumped. Quesada lied.
People will say that "Well, they have to test the waters". BS. Like with Trash Excalibur, or Runaways (which sold terribly but was kept on the schedule for months by Quesada), or She-Hulk which sold as poorly as Lobdell Flight. He doesn't like Alpha Flight and never has. Maybe he's not alone at Marvel about that (but who beyond Brevoort would be on his side? Not Cebulski, Alonso, or Schmidt, Bendis, Millar,....who?).
Screw all the lame-butt excuses. They lied to us and lied to us I have no reason to believe they won't lie again. Quesada will simply say it's economics and pass the buck, no truthful explanation that he hates AF and doesn't want it to sell well.
It was Quesada who told J. Torres to take a flying leap after AF had been greenlit. It was Quesada who hired Lobdell and told him to turn AF into Tellytubbies. He greenlit the death of AF, off-panel. He knew what he was doing. He tried to deflect critism by saying "hey, don't fear, great things are in the works". Then Bendis and Millar convinced him to go with Omega Flight, and Quesada waited until he felt that he could get away with the pre-emptive cancelling.
Oeming and Kolins and Schmidt are trying to work out an ongoing, maybe Bendis and Millar are on their side. Whoever can, post at their boards and see what they say, do they enjoy being made fools of?
Will I buy Omega Flight? Probably, but I'd like assuarnces of it turning ongoing again, really fast, like Quesada said it was. If Quesada says, "Oh, hum and haw, it's a mini and deal with it, I need space for another She-Hulk title" then I will return to hating Marvel again. Publicly.
I've told Quesada: I won't buy Marvel anymore. I buy DC because they don't lie. I would buy Omega Flight, the ongoing, but you cancelled it already. My kids don't buy Marvel. I don't use Marvel characters in class but DC characters as teaching points. Because I like good comics, I like Alpha Flight, I was pumped for Omega Flight, and you screwed us. Your company doesn't want my money, my kids' money, my students' money. That's alot of money. Sucks to be you.
See what news we get. 5 issues and then back to bastardization?
Keep your stick on the ice.
Live it.
Incredible post Mokole, really I mean that
Also with all the BS going on at Marvel, I predominetly have switched to DC. My Marvel pull-list is small in margain compared to what i get from DC
Once again great post Mokole.
Great post Mokole, I've been considering it for a while now, and now if an Omega Flight ongoing doesn't get approved after the mini I may just slash my Marvel buying alot, leaving me probably only with X-Factor (until David leaves,) the Ennis GR mini, and maybe Runaways assuming Whedon delivers and manages to keep a tighter schedule than he does on Astonishing.
besides, this is supposedly the year of spiderman, and I can honestly say that I care about spiderman not at all, so it clearly won't be the year of me buying marvel.
(I do have to wonder about how Joe Q makes his decisions about comics though... Did anybody really ask for an Xmen/Power pack mini? Was that testing the waters?) And I'm tired of JoeyQ making excuses about his duplicity, when he always says "I'm sorry you feel that way," and then proceeds to deny or blame someone else. Nobody is going to trust marvel anymore, it started with their false covers. (Putting people on covers that don't show up and suggesting they will.) Then moving to false solicitations (saying people will show up in an issue but don't.) Then moving to false advertising, (saying an ongoing comic will show up in stores when it won't.)
But what really burns me about Marvel is the fact that this went down AFTER Choosing Sides. The only reason I bought that book was because of its relavence to Omega Flight. If it had been decided that OF was a mini I wouldn't have bought it and I don't think alot of others would have either.
Isn't Daughters of the Dragon a whole different premise than HFH? I mean as far as the DOTD being a duo and HFH being a team of five(or so).Heroes for Hire was tested as a Daughter of the Dragon Mini, It sold well, and is now an ongoing.
Ditto for Madrox...Jamie being a single hero, while X-Factor is a team book.
Uh...Except...They killed the wrong team!
Gah....Why didn't they kill Ben Grimm?!
Dana
ALPHA FLIGHT IS RESURRECTED, LONG LIVE ALPHA FLIGHT!
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