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    With superhero movies and tv shows ruling the world at the moment .. Do you think Alpha Flight would be most successful now as a movie or a TV show?

    My thoughts that sparked the question ...

    1. Guardians of the Galaxy was a lesser known comic, yet it was made into a movie and got good enough reviews to continue the project. It's currently a cartoon as well.
    - Side Note: If done right, Alpha Flight could take a gamble like Guardians and be the next best thing. If it fails? I have no answer for that. Hopefully someone here does.


    2. (opinion) We do have all these marvel shows on TV with popular characters but it's truly Netflix that's kicking some butt. Maybe there's a reason Supergirl, The Flash and Arrow are "family friendly." Think about how YOU want the series. Dark (netflix) or lightened up for everyone to see (CW)?
    - Side Note: Having it as a TV show gives it a chance to fully tell/express the origin story.
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    Just for fun .. Tell me YOUR Alpha Flight

    If they made a movie what story would they tell? Which characters would/should they choose?

    If it was TV show how do you think it would be adapted for TV. A solo character slowly finding the team and introducing everyone's origin story? The entire team is already together and later on in an episode they give an origin story of a single character and so on? Identical to the comics?

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    I'd go the animated series route as it would be cheaper than CG'ing Sasquatch, Box, the Great Beasts, Wendigo, etc. and superhero costumes usually don't translate well into the real world. Plus, the right voice talent can really make a show.

    I would have the team already assembled and flashback to their formation/individual character introduction as the story demands. I wouldn't keep it identical to the comics since AF first showed up in the Uncanny X-men as (sort of) villains. I would prefer they came together as heroes protecting Canada from a threat rather than as hired thugs working for a corrupt gov't agency.

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    For every Guardians there's a Catwoman.

    For every Arrow there's a Constantine.

    There's never a guarantee. I highly doubt AF would be well received, personally. I'd like to be proved wrong though.

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    I would start the show off as an animated tv show as a build up, Sat morning cartoons, syndication what not. What kid would not enjoy seeing a big furry good guy and a dwarf saving the world on Sat mornings.

    When starting out the live action, I would beg Hugh Jackman to do voiceover narration as Wolverine for half a season as a way to introduce the team to give them a little rub at the same time. Not necessarily putting him in the show.

    I would also hope for some kind of comic-motion movie/ arc like Marvel did with Astonishing X-men for a while.
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    The problem with making an Alpha Flight movie', would be in order to make sense they would almost have to do what they did for the avengers is give the team members their own independent flicks before the final team up movie, and that would not be financially smart as they are nowhere near as recognizable as the Avengers. I could see them doing a Netflix show where the first season is all these 1 hour episodes, each one telling the story of a different AF member before the AF formed, and then the finale is Hudson bringing them all together.

    Episode 1. Essentially this would tell the story of Hudson making the guardian suit, then stealing it when he finds out its purpose. A big key here would be to not let people think hes just a Canadian iron man. This would introduce Mac and Heather as well as Gary Cody
    Episode 2. Sasquatch. Walters origin story, only I'd throw in a supervillian for him to fight at the end unlike the comic
    Episode 3. Northstar/Aurora. I would change their comic origin in that I would not have them be seperated at birth, simply for sake of time and the interests of the casual viewer. I would have them both be raised at the school by the nuns, but NS runs away when he's a teenager. The majority of this episode would take place during NS's separatist days.
    Episode 4. Shaman. Make it the exact same origin story in the comic, almost verbatim. The trick here though is to make the mystic rituals as close to whatever rituals the actual Sarcee medicine men perform, not relying on the comics portrayal. This is to deal with any potential criticism of the native community seeing him as a stereotype and also allow more realism to permeate the story.
    Episode 5. Puck this would be a story half told in flash back. Half would be the black blade of Baghdad story and the other would be The issue 5 puck in hospital tracks down drug dealers story. This two narratives would be interwoven with each other flipping back and forth throughout the episode,
    Episode 6. Snowbird again make the origin verbatim from comics.
    Episode 7. Marrina origin verbatim, but kept the alien nature hidden for reveal.
    Episode 8. Mac begins his search to form alpha flight, here he runs into several b. Characters into what will become Beta Flight: I'm thinking Diamond Lil, one of the Boxes, Wild Child, and two of the others ( I'd love seeing a live action St. Elmo)
    Episode 9. Mac begins assembling the A. team
    episodes 10-12 3 part finale where the team deals with their first threat. likely the marrina master arc, or the plot from First Flight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee View Post
    The problem with making an Alpha Flight movie', would be in order to make sense they would almost have to do what they did for the avengers is give the team members their own independent flicks before the final team up movie,
    I genuinely don't think any of the Alphans would warrant a solo film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    I genuinely don't think any of the Alphans would warrant a solo film.
    I agree there. I'm just saying if they throw the Alphans all on screen at once, particularly with no crossover (ie non comic fans) character like wolverine to grab their attention, a team up right at the start wouldn't work either. If they ever make alpha slight, it'll either be as a Netflix series, or an animated series. But neither are very likely to happen.
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    If this project were actually given the ok to be made into a modern day superhero TV Show... Which characters would make the cut? I believe some would have to be adapted and/or changed. Going off of what Yankee wrote (since I loved his detailed breakdown).

    Here's my PICK with origin ideas and changes made to Yankee's list.

    James Hudson.
    Instead of stealing the suit he puts a terminal virus into the computers hosting/carrying the prints to the suit and helmet, also sabotaging the suit so they can't reverse engineer it. He then walks out with the helmet which he later on redesigns into what he has now. The original helmet should look like the protective ones they actually use in oil rigs/construction. In my opinion this will help reduce the chances of seeing a copycat/rip off iron-man suit. His new suit should be a play on the John Wraith version.

    Sasquatch
    He should have a SIMILAR origin story, but his look should be closer to Sabretooth and Beast when transformed. A naked person walking around wouldn't work. Being able to control his "Hulk" should also give him the ability to look less overgrown as a mutated Hulk; less side effects and more of the good stuff. This would require a large man to play the part. He's supposed to be a retired NFL football player. It's more cost effective and less worrisome on the quality of CGI.

    Northstar/Aurora
    I feel indifferent about the origin story or changing it. If changed slightly, The origin should tell the tale of 2 couples trying to have babies. 1 being successful and the other failing. The accident should include both children being in the car, finally discharged from the hospital. The accident was caused by a wealthy man who's wife just miscarried a child for the 3rd time. In a rage/sorrow state, not paying attention, the car hits a pothole hard enough to viciously turn the wheel. He finds parents are dead, only hears the scream of 1 baby, phones it in as he takes the one child (Northstar) to raise as his own. This trauma/injury could help explain what triggered and/or lead into Aurora's mental health issues. While growing up, even though they don't know of one another.. it should be that they are always near and for some reason feel even stronger when the other is around. They just don't know it or who. I like THESE OUTFITS better.

    Shaman
    I can't see him being an actual hero in THIS live action series. A Native American looking character dressed the way he is in the comics and walking around like that? To me, he should have the exact same origin, but keep him as a supporting character. He should be the team doctor and healer. The same way Rosario Dawson is Daredevils nurse. Like Yankee wrote - his performance when doing rituals should be as close to the real Sarcee practice as possible. I just don't see native hand to hand combat while whispering mystic ritual spells and then pulling out dust from a fanny pack. If he has to be a major player then he should be changed into having mannerisms like the Scarlet Witch. Dust his hands in the pouch before fulfilling his spell Sarcee style.

    Puck
    How do we fix his costume? And that P?
    His origin story should be slightly altered. His ties to the military should be from only having attended military schools, being among the brightest in his schools, but having no interest to serve for the sole purpose of being a soldier in combat. He's a University History professor with a PhD in Anthropology. He gets confronted one day after a lecture by a General and a good friend of his from the military's science/research department. They tell him about the Black Blade of Baghdad and if he can find it and retrieve it. He has every intention of getting it, selling the original for profit and delivering a fake to the military. In his quest, he finds it, it becomes activated by his touch of known betrayal. He hears noises of someone following him (the army sent watchmen) and as he turns around to snatch the blade that's when Black Raazer, having already taken some of his life force to become a presence, stabs him in the chest.

    While they're explaining where the blade may be to Puck, it should give a flashback of a Persian man named Razer/Raazer with mediocre magic. He's poor and uses it to steal. He gets tricked into stealing from the wrong person who happens to be a sorcerer who binds his life to the blade?



    The rest needs really good writers. I'm definitely not one, but I hope you guys can see the direction i'm going in. Sorry for the lengthy posts. I'm just really loving everything about this.

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    Alpha's strongest chance is their ties to Wolverine.
    Guardian, Vindicator, Marrina, Shaman, Snowbird & Sasquatch would work as they fit a niche not seen in the Fox-verse (Alien + Mythical aspect).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Alpha's strongest chance is their ties to Wolverine.
    Guardian, Vindicator, Marrina, Shaman, Snowbird & Sasquatch would work as they fit a niche not seen in the Fox-verse (Alien + Mythical aspect).
    i completey agree on their strongest chance being through Wolverine.
    I think Puck might be able to work as well in that regard, as it is a mystical force that causes his reduced height and remaining forever young. Plus in the comics they always hinted on a shared past between Puck and Wolverine. (albeit according to them they never got a glimpse of each other during that past, as they worked in the shadows).
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    Netflix. So I voted show. Because they're killing it with Netflix.

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    I wouldn't vote Netflix - they work by being dark, gritty, and street-level; three things Alpha shouldn't be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Messor View Post
    I wouldn't vote Netflix - they work by being dark, gritty, and street-level; three things Alpha shouldn't be.

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    I actually agree with that. It should have more of the tone of the avengers in terms of super heroes just doing super heroes things. You can have mature storylines running through out. NOw I have no problem with dark and gritty (my fav character in all of comics is Deadpool for crying out loud) but it and alpha flight don't gel. Like in volume 4 when brainwashed heather blew her cousins brains out and cracked a one liner while doing it, that did not belong at all.
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    jack black as puck... movie all the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by seajones View Post
    jack black as puck... movie all the way
    When I think of puck it's a cross between Peter Dinklage and Martin Klebba ( Randall from Scrubs)
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