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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry/Al-Fan View Post
    For every "good" person* saved, a "bad" person* has to be saved, too (*characters in Alpha Flight; for example, if Judd makes a deal to bring Roger Bochs back, he also has to bring back somebody like Jerry Jaxon)
    That's a great idea!

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    The only characters other than the originals ... Lou Sadler.
    Which one is that again?

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    When volume 4 was previewed, and it had a roster with characters that had the same names as every character that was in volume 1...I thought finally Alpha Flight was going to be restored! ...well...volume 4 is what it is.
    I hear ya.

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    How would you name the Puck/Puck II miniseries? Meet the Pucks? Puck Yu?
    I'd vote for Puck Yu, but I don't know if it would sell enough.
    Oh, that'd sell.
    (And it's a brilliant pun.)

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    I tried to clear up some of the things from that post, but I wasn't in time! I actually meant Lou Sadler, Jr.("Major Mapleleaf" the son [not the father], the character who got "killed" along with Zuzha Yu/Puck II in New Avengers # 16). It's amazing that nobody (neither Judd nor Mac nor Walt nor Michael* nor Heather mention anything about their fallen comrades. [* the least likely to have been brain-washed] Sure, mention is made to Heather killing Snowbird way-back-when, but the two newbies...what happened to them?
    Once upon a time, they exploded from the pages of The X-Men. For a moment, they were "Canada's answer to The Avengers."

    They were ALPHA FLIGHT....

    ...once upon a time.

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    Mentioning them means admitting Volune 3 happened...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Mentioning them means admitting Volune 3 happened...
    Volume 3 wasn't all that bad (I liked some of the characters...)

    The clone thing/time displaced/whatever was worse.

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    Exactly.
    If they bring up one thing it'll lead to the other.

    Not saying they won't bring the characters back from the dead at some point; comics after all.

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    For all its problems, 3 isn't my least favourite volume.

    It's the only thing in the world I'm willing to call a 'guilty pleasure': for me, everything else is too guilty to be a pleasure, or too pleasurable to feel guilty about. (In practical terms, what that means is: If the guilt is about morality, if I think something is immoral to do, I try not to do it. (Which doesn't always mean I succeed.) OTOH, if it's about quality: if the point of something is enjoyment, and I'm enjoying it, I have a hard time saying it's bad. I can, however, see the objective badness of v3 but still enjoy it.)

    Edit: Garry, looking at your post above, do you sometimes get that thing where you put up your post and all your carriage returns disappear? (That's actually the reason for this edit.)

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    I actually enjoyed V3. That's not saying much as that is the only volume I have been able to read from start to end with the help of the TBPs being on sale. I was skipping around reading V1 due to the order I was buying the back issues as I find them and I still have a few big gaps in my V1 collection to fill. My favorite so far has been the team-up of F4 and the scrambled eggs attacking. With AF having tribal related characters also helped keep my interest. the only crazy moment I have had and got me going...WTH...is when Walter is a woman. Which I labeled the Caitlyn Issue. sorry to be off topic. Bring back dead Puck II!
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    Don't get me wrong; I enjoyed V3 a lot.
    It did seriously damage AF's reputation though as they became a joke team with a joke book.

    Hence the decision to kill them off.

    Enough time has passed so they're finally respected again; they won't complicate things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekko Hotvle View Post
    I actually enjoyed V3. That's not saying much as that is the only volume I have been able to read from start to end with the help of the TBPs being on sale. I was skipping around reading V1 due to the order I was buying the back issues as I find them and I still have a few big gaps in my V1 collection to fill. My favorite so far has been the team-up of F4 and the scrambled eggs attacking. With AF having tribal related characters also helped keep my interest. the only crazy moment I have had and got me going...WTH...is when Walter is a woman. Which I labeled the Caitlyn Issue. sorry to be off topic. Bring back dead Puck II!
    Heh - well technically the topic of this thread started as ALPHA FLIGHT being called (TEAM MEMBER) AND ALPHA FLIGHT (like NORTHSTAR and ALPHA FLIGHT as the series name; sort of like WOLVERINE AND THE X-MEN).

    For Volume 1 - what issues are you missing?

    And if you're only WTF moment in V1 was the Walter as a woman, I'm surprised!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Don't get me wrong; I enjoyed V3 a lot.
    It did seriously damage AF's reputation though as they became a joke team with a joke book.
    Hence the decision to kill them off.
    Enough time has passed so they're finally respected again; they won't complicate things.
    Which is odd - because look at the Great Lake Avengers, or Squirrel Girl... Plenty of joke characters that actually thrive...

    Of course, the New Warriors suffered the same fate; that dreaded limited series (very cartoony and silly story) sealed their fate apparently to be the ones to die to trigger Civil War...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekko Hotvle View Post
    My favorite so far has been the team-up of F4 and the scrambled eggs attacking.
    Issues #2-4 and 18? Those are some of my favourites, too.

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    ... when Walter is a woman. Which I labeled the Caitlyn Issue.
    That's more than one issue.

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    V3... It did seriously damage AF's reputation though as they became a joke team with a joke book.
    Hence the guilt to my pleasure.

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    And if you're only WTF moment in V1 was the Walter as a woman, I'm surprised!
    Mekko does have some huge (but as yet undisclosed) gaps...

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    Which is odd - because look at the Great Lake Avengers, or Squirrel Girl... Plenty of joke characters that actually thrive...
    Howard The Duck, JLI...
    I know it's subjective, but I enjoy the humour in all those books more than v3 (but I do enjoy the humour in v3).

    There's something... a certain je ne sais quoi that makes those titles all different to v3. I want to say they respect their characters, but not all of them do. There's a respectability to them, though, that's lacking in v3.

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    I have some down time this weekend I planned to go see what issues I am missing and hope to go to a couple stores in searching of AF. The nearest store is an hour away from where I live. but with that said, I did find the TPB of The Gift and the Spiderman/AF team up recently.

    The most recent issues I read where the 4-part miniseries that had to deal with Her (I actually only read 2 issues of that so far) but that seems to be good so far.

    and I read the Amazing X-Men/ AF Wendigo event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekko Hotvle View Post
    I have some down time this weekend I planned to go see what issues I am missing and hope to go to a couple stores in searching of AF. The nearest store is an hour away from where I live. but with that said, I did find the TPB of The Gift and the Spiderman/AF team up recently.

    The most recent issues I read where the 4-part miniseries that had to deal with Her (I actually only read 2 issues of that so far) but that seems to be good so far.

    and I read the Amazing X-Men/ AF Wendigo event.
    Do you live within the US? If so - let me know what issues you're missing. I may be able to find some and send them your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil View Post
    Mentioning them means admitting Volune 3 happened...
    Mentioning Heather "killing" Snowbird admits that the Mantlo era existed.
    Once upon a time, they exploded from the pages of The X-Men. For a moment, they were "Canada's answer to The Avengers."

    They were ALPHA FLIGHT....

    ...once upon a time.

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